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We were playing multiplayer last night. It was the 36 scenario in 1.05c and, for some reason, the Axis had been spinning things out so that it was now 1940 with no general war. Italy had annexed Spain and Yugoslavia and now attacked Bulgaria. The UK invited Bulgaria into the Allies and they accepted. This put the Allies at war with Italy but not Germany as Italy wasn't in the Axis.

The issue is that the USA now declared war on Italy too even though it's WE was well short of 100 and it wasn't in the Allies. I've seen this sort of thing happen in other circumstances too. Is this behaviour of the USA a bug, WAD or what? I don't much mind either way but we need to know as it was disruptive to the game as we couldn't agree on what should be done about this.

Andrew
 
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redawn said:
We were playing multiplayer last night. It was the 36 scenario in 1.05c and, for some reason, the Axis had been spinning things out so that it was now 1940 with no general war. Italy had annexed Spain and Yugoslavia and now attacked Bulgaria. The UK invited Bulgaria into the Allies and they accepted. This put the Allies at war with Italy but not Germany as Italy wasn't in the Axis.

The issue is that the USA now declared war on Italy too even though it's WE was well short of 100 and it wasn't in the Allies. I've seen this sort of thing happen in other circumstances too. Is this behaviour of the USA a bug, WAD or what? I don't much mind either way but we need to know as it was disruptive to the game as we couldn't agree on what should be done about this.

Andrew

Do you have the history log of that game?
 

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Vulture said:
Do you have the history log of that game?
Yes. Here's the last session from the log. The DOW happens at 17:00 August 7, 1940.

Andrew
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Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	in" 
Tomar (Germany) :	" 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :	" 
Andrew (France) :	in" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	the most plausible thing is that they are going for early nukes" 
0:00 July 3, 1940 : The 13ème Division d'Infanterie is now ready for deployment." 
0:00 July 3, 1940 : The 56ème Division d'Infanterie is now ready for deployment." 
0:00 July 3, 1940 : The 56ème Division d'Infanterie is now ready for deployment." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	which is a waste of a day of gaming" 
17:00 July 3, 1940 : Paraguay have been hardly influenced by USA." 
17:00 July 3, 1940 : Nationalist China have been hardly influenced by Communist China." 
17:00 July 3, 1940 : Paraguay have been influenced by Brazil." 
17:00 July 3, 1940 : Ecuador have been hardly influenced by Argentina." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	we should DOW as soon as we can" 
17:00 July 4, 1940 : Siam have been hardly influenced by Philippines." 
17:00 July 4, 1940 : Belgium have been hardly influenced by Netherlands." 
17:00 July 4, 1940 : Communist China refused to give in to Nationalist China's territorial demands." 
17:00 July 4, 1940 : Netherlands have been hardly influenced by Belgium." 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :	agreed" 
17:00 July 5, 1940 : Estonia have been hardly influenced by Finland." 
17:00 July 6, 1940 : Ecuador have been hardly influenced by USA." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	agree, Andy?" 
Andrew (France) :	ok" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	i hope that's not the case, but ..." 
5:00 July 9, 1940 : Belgium have been completely influenced by Germany." 
5:00 July 9, 1940 : Netherlands have been successfully influenced by Germany." 
17:00 July 12, 1940 : Tibet have been successfully influenced by USA." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	if it is, i'll drag us in and take the big dissent hit" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	i've in the most secure position" 
17:00 July 15, 1940 : Paraguay have been successfully influenced by USA." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	andy, you should be building tanks to go on the offensive - got a decent model?" 
Andrew (France) :	sould be the weakest economy that takes the hit" 
Andrew (France) :	i'M 283 ic" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	you mean you?" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	i'm 353" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	but you've got the bigger land army" 
Andrew (France) :	86 pc WE" 
17:00 July 19, 1940 : Ecuador have been barely influenced by USA." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	when we DOW, i'll go hard for SPain first - agreeed?" 
17:00 July 22, 1940 : Poland have shared 'Amphibious Tanks' with us." 
20:00 July 24, 1940 : Belgium have been successfully influenced by Germany." 
0:00 July 25, 1940 : Our scientists have developed 'Basic SR Fighter Prototype Tests'." 
Andrew (France) :	note that Italy isn't Axis yet - so we can DOW them seperately" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	ok" 
17:00 July 26, 1940 : Argentina have been hardly influenced by USA." 
1:00 July 27, 1940 : Belgium have been barely influenced by United Kingdom." 
12:00 July 27, 1940 : Netherlands have been completely influenced by United Kingdom." 
7:00 July 28, 1940 : Netherlands have been barely influenced by Germany." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	continued German diplomacy on Belgium" 
Andrew (France) :	I can't attack germany anyway - frontier is too narrow" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	shall I DOW Italy now?" 
Andrew (France) :	can you?" 
17:00 July 30, 1940 : Nationalist China have been completely influenced by USA." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	sorry - no" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	i'm only at 83" 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :		" 
Andrew (France) :	i'm 88" 
20:00 August 6, 1940 : Portugal have been barely influenced by United Kingdom." 
13:00 August 7, 1940 : Belgium have been successfully influenced by Germany." 
13:00 August 7, 1940 : Italy declared war upon Bulgaria." 
13:00 August 7, 1940 : Bulgaria entered a Military Alliance with United Kingdom, Iraq, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, Nepal, " 
Bhutan, Yemen, Oman and Poland." 
Tomar (Germany) :	speed reduced to normal" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	here we go" 
Andrew (France) :	how did that happen?" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	i called Bulgaria to alliance - iad been working on them for a long time" 
Andrew (France) :	good work" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	now they're making poo in their panties, those fascists" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	look at the long pause - they're freaking out" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	andy, take Genoa" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	yeah, we caught them with their pants down" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	andy, he didn't fortify the Rhine - you should be able to get across if you move fast - or at least draw attention" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	you cna always call off the attack" 
Andrew (France) :	we're not at war with germany" 
Andrew (France) :	only Italy" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	for the moment, you mean" 
17:00 August 7, 1940 : USA declared war upon Italy." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	nice, we got the USA in, too!!!" 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :	hehe" 
19:00 August 7, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Central English Channel." 
Tomar (Germany) :	what the hell is this ????" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	now you've got your hands full!" 
Tomar (Germany) :	US cant declare on italy with WE 34" 
Tomar (Germany) :	this is a bug" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	AI did it" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	USA WE is 100" 
Tomar (Germany) :	I know ... but its not possible" 
22:00 August 7, 1940 : 6th Squadron has arrived in Eastern Bay of Biscaye." 
1:00 August 8, 1940 : 7th Squadron has arrived in Central English Channel." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	check it" 
Tomar (Germany) :	it was 34 just a few days" 
Andrew (France) :	President must have friends in Bulgaira" 
Tomar (Germany) :	this is ridiculous" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	well, now, the old nuke program might not make it, eh?" 
10:00 August 8, 1940 : 2nd Fleet has arrived in Ouesseant." 
12:00 August 8, 1940 : A convoy in the Beirut-Toulon convoy at Western Ionian Sea lost 11 transports and 0 escorts." 
Tomar (Germany) :	lets reload from the autosave" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	why?" 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :		no" 
Andrew (France) :II agree - no way" 
Tomar (Germany) :	Because there is no point" 
Andrew (France) :	so you're resigning?" 
Tomar (Germany) :	US was at 34 WE" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	so we worked all morning, and something goes south, and now we're done?" 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :	its a AI, they suck anyways" 
Tomar (Germany) :	we re not resigning" 
DEFAULT (Italy) :how did that happen anyway" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	it's not like the Yanks are coming anytime soon, knowing them" 
Tomar (Germany) :	were realoado,g from 7 days ago" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	not me" 
DEFAULT (Italy) :why arnt we palying" 
Tomar (Germany) :	there is not point " 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	why not?" 
DEFAULT (Italy) :	there is" 
Tomar (Germany) :	with USA gettting a 66 WE boiost out of nowhere" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	out of nowhere?  You mean out of a rampaging Italy?" 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :lets play, who cares" 
Andrew (France) :	It's not like they've declared war on you, germnay" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	andy, i'm driving out of Gib" 
Andrew (France) :	Only Italy is the bad boy" 
DEFAULT (Italy) :	this is a ridiculous speed" 
Tomar (Germany) :	they have 100 WE ... more than France" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	slow it down, plz" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	for Italy" 
DEFAULT (Italy) :	i want speed up" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	ok - whatever" 
2:00 August 10, 1940 : 7th Squadron has arrived in Cherbourg." 
3:00 August 10, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Cherbourg." 
Tomar (Germany) :	Uk" 
4:00 August 10, 1940 : 6th Squadron has arrived in La Rochelle." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	yes?" 
8:00 August 10, 1940 : 15th Corps has arrived in Auch." 
16:00 August 10, 1940 : 2nd Fleet has arrived in Brest." 
18:00 August 11, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Toulouse." 
3:00 August 12, 1940 : Germany sent 3rd Corps as a loan to Italy." 
7:00 August 12, 1940 : We have lost control over Gabès to Italy." 
7:00 August 12, 1940 : A convoy in the Beirut-Toulon convoy at Northern Tyrrhenian Sea lost 4 transports and 0 escorts." 
11:00 August 12, 1940 : A convoy in the Fianarantsoa-Toulon convoy at Northern Tyrrhenian Sea lost 3 transports and 0 escorts." 
5:00 August 13, 1940 : A convoy in the Toulon-Hanoi convoy at Southern Tyrrhenian Sea lost 1 transports and 0 escorts." 
21:00 August 13, 1940 : 4th Squadron has arrived in Gulf of Lyon." 
2:00 August 14, 1940 : 2nd Fleet has arrived in Bay of Biscaye." 
17:00 August 14, 1940 : Hungary have been hardly influenced by Slovakia." 
19:00 August 14, 1940 : 1st Squadron has arrived in Central English Channel." 
DEFAULT (Italy) :	speed up 1?" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	ok" 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :	hows the war against italy going?" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	fighting in SPain" 
17:00 August 15, 1940 : South Africa have shared 'Equipment Trials and Testing' with us." 
16:00 August 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Tunis to Italy." 
17:00 August 16, 1940 : 4th Army has arrived in Paris." 
17:00 August 16, 1940 : Hungary is now granting Poland military access through their country." 
5:00 August 17, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Bordeaux." 
20:00 August 17, 1940 : 1st Corps has arrived in Bordeaux." 
0:00 August 18, 1940 : Our scientists have developed 'Penicillin, DDT and Mepacrine'." 
6:00 August 18, 1940 : 1st Army has arrived in Toulouse." 
14:00 August 18, 1940 : 17th Corps has finished loading in Central English Channel." 
DEFAULT (Italy) :	northern italy" 
8:00 August 19, 1940 : Germany sent 15th Corps as a loan to Italy." 
11:00 August 19, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Eastern Bay of Biscaye." 
17:00 August 19, 1940 : Yemen have shared 'Assembly Mass-Production' with us." 
17:00 August 20, 1940 : 6th Squadron has arrived in Deep Bay of Biscaye." 
18:00 August 21, 1940 : 1st Squadron has arrived in Eastern Cantabrian Sea." 
20:00 August 21, 1940 : We have lost control over Bône to Italy." 
5:00 August 23, 1940 : 1st Corps has finished loading in Eastern Bay of Biscaye." 
8:00 August 23, 1940 : 2nd Army has finished loading in Eastern Bay of Biscaye." 
8:00 August 23, 1940 : 1st Army has arrived in Montpellier." 
20:00 August 23, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Deep Bay of Biscaye." 
1:00 August 24, 1940 : Germany sent 2nd Corps as a loan to Italy." 
15:00 August 24, 1940 : 6th Squadron has arrived in Western Cantabrian Sea." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	losing thre Suez" 
Andrew (France) :	I'm invading N Spain" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	sweet" 
8:00 August 27, 1940 : 17th Corps has finished unloading in Gijón." 
12:00 August 27, 1940 : We have lost control over Batna to Italy." 
0:00 August 28, 1940 : The 58ème Division d'Infanterie is now ready for deployment." 
17:00 August 28, 1940 : Poland sent Army Krakow as a loan to United Kingdom." 
0:00 August 29, 1940 : Australia granted military control to United Kingdom." 
8:00 August 29, 1940 : 13th Corps has arrived in Tarbes." 
11:00 August 29, 1940 : 1st Corps has finished unloading in Gijón." 
0:00 August 30, 1940 : The 58ème Division d'Infanterie is now ready for deployment." 
Andrew (France) :		why so fast?" 
5:00 August 30, 1940 : 17th Corps has arrived in Burgos." 
17:00 August 30, 1940 : 2nd Army has finished unloading in Gijón." 
17:00 August 30, 1940 : Japan declared war upon Communist China." 
Tomar (Germany) :		below normal now" 
23:00 August 30, 1940 : Germany and Slovakia declared war upon Belgium." 
0:00 September 1, 1940 : Germany and Slovakia declared war upon Denmark." 
6:00 September 1, 1940 : 5th Army has arrived in Barcelona." 
6:00 September 1, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Barcelona." 
6:00 September 1, 1940 : 1st Army has arrived in Barcelona." 
12:00 September 1, 1940 : We won a battle against Italy in Barcelona." 
17:00 September 1, 1940 : Poland sent Army Lublin as a loan to United Kingdom." 
Duckface (Soviet Union) :	im thinking of dowing romania, and from there attack italy in yugoslavia" 
17:00 September 2, 1940 : USA went with Pass the Embargo in Oil Embargo against Japan." 
17:00 September 2, 1940 : Japan had US Oil Embargo ." 
22:00 September 2, 1940 : 15th Corps has arrived in Tarbes." 
14:00 September 3, 1940 : We have lost control over Algiers to Italy." 
14:00 September 4, 1940 : 14th Army has arrived in Barcelona." 
17:00 September 4, 1940 : Estonia have been hardly influenced by Sweden." 
21:00 September 4, 1940 : Soviet Union, Mongolia and Tannu Tuva declared war upon Romania." 
0:00 September 5, 1940 : Hungary went with Press the issue in The Vienna Diktat - Claim Transylvania with German blessing." 
2:00 September 5, 1940 : 1st Army has arrived in Lleida." 
2:00 September 5, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Lleida." 
2:00 September 5, 1940 : Germany went with Force Romanian acceptance in The Vienna Diktat." 
2:00 September 5, 1940 : Romania went with Accept in The Vienna Diktat." 
2:00 September 5, 1940 : Hungary had The Vienna Diktat - Romania folds under German duress ." 
3:00 September 5, 1940 : 8th Corps has arrived in Tarbes." 
4:00 September 5, 1940 : We won a battle against Italy in Lleida." 
4:00 September 5, 1940 : 12th Corps has arrived in Montpellier." 
5:00 September 5, 1940 : 16th Corps has arrived in Montpellier." 
10:00 September 5, 1940 : 3rd Army has arrived in Bilbao." 
10:00 September 5, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Bilbao." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	play it safe and careful, guys - we got the upper hand now" 
15:00 September 5, 1940 : We won a battle against Italy in Bilbao." 
17:00 September 5, 1940 : Persia have been hardly influenced by Iraq." 
17:00 September 5, 1940 : Hungary have been hardly influenced by Romania." 
17:00 September 5, 1940 : Japan declared war upon Nationalist China." 
19:00 September 5, 1940 : 1st Corps has arrived in Vigo." 
0:00 September 6, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Bilbao." 
17:00 September 6, 1940 : Romania have been influenced by Hungary." 
0:00 September 7, 1940 : Italy annexed Bulgaria." 
18:00 September 7, 1940 : Germany annexed Denmark." 
0:00 September 8, 1940 : The 58ème Division d'Infanterie is now ready for deployment." 
10:00 September 8, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Eastern Cantabrian Sea." 
17:00 September 8, 1940 : Venezuela have been completely influenced by Ecuador." 
17:00 September 8, 1940 : Portugal have been influenced by Japan." 
17:00 September 8, 1940 : Italy have been barely influenced by Switzerland." 
14:00 September 9, 1940 : Germany and Slovakia declared war upon us!" 
15:00 September 9, 1940 : We have lost control over Orléansville to Italy." 
20:00 September 9, 1940 : 2nd Fleet has arrived in Central English Channel." 
1:00 September 10, 1940 : 1st Corps has finished loading in Eastern Cantabrian Sea." 
15:00 September 10, 1940 : We have lost control over Lille to Germany." 
17:00 September 10, 1940 : USA had US occupation of Greenland and Iceland ." 
20:00 September 10, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Bourges." 
8:00 September 11, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Sedan." 
12:00 September 11, 1940 : 9th Corps has arrived in Perigueux." 
18:00 September 11, 1940 : We have lost control over Sedan to Germany." 
18:00 September 11, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Sedan." 
19:00 September 11, 1940 : 12th Corps has arrived in Rodez." 
21:00 September 11, 1940 : 1st Squadron has arrived in Ouesseant." 
22:00 September 11, 1940 : We have lost control over Rouen to Germany." 
10:00 September 12, 1940 : We have lost control over Amiens to Germany." 
16:00 September 12, 1940 : We have lost control over Oran to Italy." 
20:00 September 12, 1940 : 7th Army has arrived in Amiens." 
20:00 September 12, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Amiens." 
22:00 September 12, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Amiens." 
4:00 September 13, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Caen." 
13:00 September 13, 1940 : 1st Corps has finished unloading in Casablanca." 
13:00 September 13, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Casablanca." 
14:00 September 13, 1940 : We have lost control over Reims to Germany." 
15:00 September 13, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Caen." 
15:00 September 13, 1940 : 16th Corps has arrived in Clermont-Ferrand." 
20:00 September 13, 1940 : We have lost control over Caen to Germany." 
20:00 September 13, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Caen." 
22:00 September 13, 1940 : 7th Army has arrived in Reims." 
22:00 September 13, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Reims." 
0:00 September 14, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Reims." 
6:00 September 14, 1940 : Norway have been hardly influenced by United Kingdom." 
7:00 September 14, 1940 : 5th Army has arrived in Vichy." 
14:00 September 14, 1940 : We have lost control over Cherbourg to Germany." 
17:00 September 14, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Orleans." 
4:00 September 15, 1940 : 15th Corps has arrived in Barcelona." 
6:00 September 15, 1940 : 7th Army has arrived in Paris." 
7:00 September 15, 1940 : 6th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
7:00 September 15, 1940 : 18th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
7:00 September 15, 1940 : 4th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
7:00 September 15, 1940 : 3rd Corps has arrived in Paris." 
8:00 September 15, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Cap Sim." 
10:00 September 15, 1940 : 13th Corps has arrived in Bourges." 
13:00 September 15, 1940 : We have lost control over Troyes to Germany." 
16:00 September 15, 1940 : We have lost control over Saint-Malo to Germany." 
18:00 September 15, 1940 : 14th Army has arrived in Limoges." 
2:00 September 16, 1940 : 5th Army has arrived in Bourges." 
3:00 September 16, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Orleans." 
4:00 September 16, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Orleans." 
4:00 September 16, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Orleans." 
6:00 September 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Orleans to Germany." 
6:00 September 16, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Orleans." 
14:00 September 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Tlemcen to Italy." 
14:00 September 16, 1940 : 1st Army has arrived in Pamplona." 
14:00 September 16, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Pamplona." 
14:00 September 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Lorient to Germany." 
14:00 September 16, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Paris." 
14:00 September 16, 1940 : 3rd Army has arrived in Pamplona." 
17:00 September 16, 1940 : We won a battle against Italy in Pamplona." 
19:00 September 16, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Burgos." 
19:00 September 16, 1940 : Italy entered a Military Alliance with Germany and Slovakia." 
19:00 September 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Burgos to Italy." 
19:00 September 16, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Burgos." 
21:00 September 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Le Mans to Germany." 
4:00 September 17, 1940 : We have lost control over Nancy to Germany." 
7:00 September 17, 1940 : We have lost control over Auxerre to Germany." 
16:00 September 17, 1940 : We won a battle against Italy in Burgos." 
20:00 September 17, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Brest." 
2:00 September 18, 1940 : We have lost control over Rennes to Germany." 
9:00 September 18, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Bourges." 
10:00 September 18, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Bourges." 
10:00 September 18, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Bourges." 
15:00 September 18, 1940 : We have lost control over Bourges to Germany." 
15:00 September 18, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Bourges." 
17:00 September 18, 1940 : Hungary have been hardly influenced by Romania." 
17:00 September 18, 1940 : We have lost control over Brest to Germany." 
17:00 September 18, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Brest." 
17:00 September 18, 1940 : We have lost control over Nantes to Germany." 
21:00 September 18, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Dijon." 
21:00 September 18, 1940 : Slovakia granted military control to Italy." 
23:00 September 18, 1940 : We have lost control over Dijon to Germany." 
23:00 September 18, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Dijon." 
0:00 September 19, 1940 : 1st Corps has arrived in Tlemcen." 
0:00 September 19, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Tlemcen." 
5:00 September 19, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Orleans." 
5:00 September 19, 1940 : 10th Corps has finished loading in Ouesseant." 
10:00 September 19, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Orleans." 
12:00 September 19, 1940 : We have lost control over Orleans to Germany." 
12:00 September 19, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Orleans." 
18:00 September 19, 1940 : We have lost control over Cholet to Germany." 
19:00 September 19, 1940 : 13th Corps has arrived in Vichy." 
20:00 September 19, 1940 : We have lost control over d'Ousseant to Germany." 
20:00 September 19, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Paris." 
0:00 September 20, 1940 : We won a battle against Italy in Tlemcen." 
6:00 September 20, 1940 : 5th Army has arrived in Vichy." 
19:00 September 20, 1940 : We have lost control over Poitiers to Germany." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	look at the Poles give those Germans a hard time!" 
Andrew (France) :	supplies in northen spain please - my capital is cut off" 
20:00 September 21, 1940 : 11th Corps has arrived in Colmar." 
20:00 September 21, 1940 : We have lost control over La Rochelle to Germany." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	yor wish is my command" 
0:00 September 22, 1940 : We have lost control over Châteauroux to Germany." 
5:00 September 22, 1940 : We have lost control over Lleida to Italy." 
21:00 September 22, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Vichy." 
22:00 September 22, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Vichy." 
22:00 September 22, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Vichy." 
23:00 September 22, 1940 : We have lost control over Bordeaux to Germany." 
0:00 September 23, 1940 : We have lost control over Vichy to Germany." 
0:00 September 23, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Vichy." 
1:00 September 23, 1940 : 7th Army has arrived in Caen." 
1:00 September 23, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Caen." 
3:00 September 23, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Caen." 
14:00 September 24, 1940 : 7th Army has arrived in Paris." 
16:00 September 24, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Troyes." 
17:00 September 24, 1940 : Argentina have been influenced by USA." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	quite a war we have here fellas" 
19:00 September 24, 1940 : Norway have been successfully influenced by United Kingdom." 
2:00 September 25, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Clermont-Ferrand." 
2:00 September 25, 1940 : We have lost control over Bayonne to Germany." 
4:00 September 25, 1940 : We have lost control over Clermont-Ferrand to Germany." 
4:00 September 25, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Clermont-Ferrand." 
20:00 September 25, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Troyes." 
21:00 September 25, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Barcelona." 
21:00 September 25, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Troyes." 
21:00 September 25, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Troyes." 
22:00 September 25, 1940 : 12th Army has arrived in Saarbrücken." 
22:00 September 25, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Saarbrücken." 
23:00 September 25, 1940 : We have lost control over Troyes to Germany." 
23:00 September 25, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Troyes." 
7:00 September 26, 1940 : 1st Squadron has arrived in Eastern Cantabrian Sea." 
8:00 September 26, 1940 : 13th Corps has arrived in Saint Etienne." 
10:00 September 26, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Saarbrücken." 
11:00 September 26, 1940 : We have lost control over Auch to Germany." 
15:00 September 26, 1940 : We have lost control over Bilbao to Italy." 
1:00 September 27, 1940 : 3rd Corps has arrived in La Rochelle." 
4:00 September 27, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Paris." 
6:00 September 27, 1940 : We have lost control over Barcelona to Italy." 
6:00 September 27, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Barcelona." 
7:00 September 27, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Perigueux." 
9:00 September 27, 1940 : 16th Corps has arrived in Toulouse." 
9:00 September 27, 1940 : We have lost control over Perigueux to Germany." 
9:00 September 27, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Perigueux." 
10:00 September 27, 1940 : 4th Army has arrived in Reims." 
10:00 September 27, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Reims." 
12:00 September 27, 1940 : Turkey entered a Military Alliance with United Kingdom, Iraq, France, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, Nepal, " 
Bhutan, Yemen, Oman and Poland." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	sweet!" 
14:00 September 27, 1940 : Turkey granted military control to United Kingdom." 
16:00 September 27, 1940 : 5th Army has arrived in Saint Etienne." 
18:00 September 27, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Reims." 
21:00 September 27, 1940 : 12th Army has arrived in Strasbourg." 
0:00 September 28, 1940 : 10th Corps has finished unloading in Gijón." 
10:00 September 28, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Orleans." 
22:00 September 28, 1940 : 9th Corps has arrived in Toulouse." 
0:00 September 29, 1940 : 4th Army has arrived in Paris." 
5:00 September 29, 1940 : 15th Corps has arrived in Montpellier." 
9:00 September 29, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in La Rochelle." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	good job in Paris, Andew" 
10:00 September 29, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in La Rochelle." 
10:00 September 29, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in La Rochelle." 
DEFAULT (Italy) :	1 faster?" 
13:00 September 29, 1940 : 19th Corps has arrived in Auxerre." 
14:00 September 29, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Auxerre." 
Andrew (France) :	no way" 
16:00 September 29, 1940 : We have lost control over La Rochelle to Germany." 
16:00 September 29, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in La Rochelle." 
16:00 September 29, 1940 : We have lost control over Auxerre to Germany." 
16:00 September 29, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Auxerre." 
17:00 September 29, 1940 : Finland have been completely influenced by Norway." 
19:00 September 29, 1940 : 18th Corps has arrived in Rouen." 
19:00 September 29, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Rouen." 
20:00 September 29, 1940 : 6th Corps has arrived in Amiens." 
21:00 September 29, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Rouen." 
0:00 September 30, 1940 : 3rd Army has arrived in Bilbao." 
0:00 September 30, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Bilbao." 
1:00 September 30, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Chaumont." 
1:00 September 30, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Orleans." 
2:00 September 30, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Orleans." 
2:00 September 30, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Orleans." 
4:00 September 30, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Limoges." 
4:00 September 30, 1940 : We have lost control over Orleans to Germany." 
4:00 September 30, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Orleans." 
5:00 September 30, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Limoges." 
5:00 September 30, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Limoges." 
5:00 September 30, 1940 : 19th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
9:00 September 30, 1940 : We have lost control over Limoges to Germany." 
9:00 September 30, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Limoges." 
10:00 September 30, 1940 : 20th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
10:00 September 30, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Bilbao." 
12:00 September 30, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Paris." 
16:00 September 30, 1940 : 18th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
19:00 September 30, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Amiens." 
20:00 September 30, 1940 : We won a battle against Germany in Amiens." 
20:00 September 30, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Amiens." 
22:00 September 30, 1940 : We have lost control over Amiens to Germany." 
22:00 September 30, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Amiens." 
5:00 October 1, 1940 : 3rd Corps has arrived in Limoges." 
5:00 October 1, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Limoges." 
7:00 October 1, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Limoges." 
12:00 October 1, 1940 : 13th Corps has arrived in Dijon." 
13:00 October 1, 1940 : 1st Squadron has arrived in Eastern Bay of Biscaye." 
15:00 October 1, 1940 : 6th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
16:00 October 1, 1940 : 3rd Squadron has arrived in Caen." 
16:00 October 1, 1940 : We have lost control over Chaumont to Germany." 
16:00 October 1, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Chaumont." 
23:00 October 1, 1940 : 3rd Squadron has arrived in Paris." 
0:00 October 2, 1940 : 3rd Squadron has arrived in Caen." 
1:00 October 2, 1940 : 3rd Squadron has arrived in Paris." 
10:00 October 2, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Tlemcen." 
16:00 October 2, 1940 : 3rd Army has arrived in Bayonne." 
16:00 October 2, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Bayonne." 
17:00 October 2, 1940 : 6th Army has arrived in Metz." 
6:00 October 3, 1940 : We have lost control over Tlemcen to Italy." 
6:00 October 3, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Tlemcen." 
11:00 October 3, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Bayonne." 
12:00 October 3, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Montpellier." 
17:00 October 3, 1940 : 2nd Corps has arrived in Clermont-Ferrand." 
17:00 October 3, 1940 : We have lost control over Montpellier to Italy." 
17:00 October 3, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Montpellier." 
17:00 October 3, 1940 : Sweden have been barely influenced by Norway." 
1:00 October 4, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Dijon." 
3:00 October 4, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Clermont-Ferrand." 
4:00 October 4, 1940 : We have lost control over Dijon to Germany." 
4:00 October 4, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Dijon." 
5:00 October 4, 1940 : We have lost control over Clermont-Ferrand to Germany." 
5:00 October 4, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Clermont-Ferrand." 
10:00 October 4, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Gibraltar." 
20:00 October 4, 1940 : 22nd Corps has arrived in Lleida." 
20:00 October 4, 1940 : 2nd Fleet has arrived in Southampton." 
22:00 October 4, 1940 : We have lost control over Bilbao to Italy." 
22:00 October 4, 1940 : 1st Squadron has arrived in Plymouth." 
23:00 October 4, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Toulon." 
0:00 October 5, 1940 : Our scientists have developed 'Rocket Artillery 200mm+'." 
1:00 October 5, 1940 : 1st Corps has arrived in Fez." 
9:00 October 5, 1940 : 3rd Corps has arrived in Bilbao." 
9:00 October 5, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Bilbao." 
10:00 October 5, 1940 : 3rd Army has arrived in Bilbao." 
3:00 October 6, 1940 : 10th Corps has arrived in Bilbao." 
3:00 October 6, 1940 : 15th Corps has arrived in Rodez." 
9:00 October 6, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Besançon." 
10:00 October 6, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Fez." 
12:00 October 6, 1940 : We have lost control over Fez to Italy." 
12:00 October 6, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Fez." 
13:00 October 6, 1940 : We have lost control over Besançon to Germany." 
13:00 October 6, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Besançon." 
17:00 October 6, 1940 : 13th Corps has arrived in Saint Etienne." 
23:00 October 6, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Bilbao." 
17:00 October 7, 1940 : We have lost control over Nimes to Italy." 
19:00 October 7, 1940 : 1st Corps has arrived in Casablanca." 
19:00 October 7, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Cap Sim." 
19:00 October 7, 1940 : 2nd Fleet has arrived in Deep Bay of Biscaye." 
6:00 October 8, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Rodez." 
8:00 October 8, 1940 : We have lost control over Rodez to Germany." 
8:00 October 8, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Rodez." 
Andrew (France) :	supplies in Marseiiles please" 
12:00 October 8, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Casablanca." 
14:00 October 8, 1940 : We have lost control over Casablanca to Italy." 
14:00 October 8, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Casablanca." 
Andrew (France) :	and anywhere else that seems to be cut off, please" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	on their way" 
17:00 October 8, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile fleets of Italy in Gulf of Lyon." 
19:00 October 8, 1940 : 17th Corps has arrived in Gijón." 
21:00 October 8, 1940 : We won a battle against Italy in Gulf of Lyon." 
23:00 October 8, 1940 : 14th Corps has arrived in Saint Etienne." 
1:00 October 9, 1940 : 3rd Fleet has arrived in Agadir Sea." 
8:00 October 9, 1940 : We have lost control over Toulon to Italy." 
8:00 October 9, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Toulon." 
14:00 October 9, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Lyon." 
18:00 October 9, 1940 : We have lost control over Lyon to Germany." 
18:00 October 9, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Lyon." 
5:00 October 10, 1940 : 22nd Corps has arrived in Barcelona." 
17:00 October 10, 1940 : 3rd Corps has arrived in Pamplona." 
1:00 October 11, 1940 : 2nd Corps has arrived in Saint Etienne." 
7:00 October 11, 1940 : 10th Corps has arrived in Gijón." 
7:00 October 11, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Auxerre." 
8:00 October 11, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Auxerre." 
11:00 October 11, 1940 : We have lost control over Auxerre to Germany." 
11:00 October 11, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Auxerre." 
13:00 October 11, 1940 : We have lost control over Burgos to Italy." 
14:00 October 11, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Italy in Marseilles." 
17:00 October 11, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Toulouse." 
18:00 October 11, 1940 : 1st Corps has arrived in Agadir." 
20:00 October 11, 1940 : We have lost control over Toulouse to Germany." 
20:00 October 11, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Toulouse." 
21:00 October 11, 1940 : We have lost control over Beirut to Italy." 
22:00 October 11, 1940 : Soviet Union annexed Romania." 
3:00 October 12, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Paris." 
6:00 October 12, 1940 : We have lost control over Marseilles to Italy." 
6:00 October 12, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Marseilles." 
10:00 October 12, 1940 : 3rd Army has arrived in Tarbes." 
16:00 October 12, 1940 : 1st Corps has finished loading in Agadir Sea." 
17:00 October 12, 1940 : Sweden have been hardly influenced by Norway." 
23:00 October 12, 1940 : Norway have been hardly influenced by United Kingdom." 
5:00 October 13, 1940 : 11th Army has arrived in Grenoble." 
7:00 October 13, 1940 : 22nd Corps has arrived in Montpellier." 
7:00 October 13, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Montpellier." 
13:00 October 13, 1940 : We have lost control over Damascus to Italy." 
17:00 October 13, 1940 : Hungary have been influenced by Slovakia." 
21:00 October 13, 1940 : Hungary have been hardly influenced by United Kingdom." 
22:00 October 13, 1940 : Soviet Union, Mongolia and Tannu Tuva declared war upon Italy, Germany and Slovakia." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	go Josef!" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	Seeing as how we don't want the Reds taking over the world, let's talk ..." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	???" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	well, we can back off and let you fight Josef" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	nobody loves commies!" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	ok" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	you gotta stop pressing us, too" 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	deal?" 
18:00 October 14, 1940 : 19th Corps has arrived in Auxerre." 
18:00 October 14, 1940 : We have engaged hostile armies in Auxerre." 
20:00 October 14, 1940 : We have lost control over Agadir to Italy." 
21:00 October 14, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Auxerre." 
5:00 October 15, 1940 : We have lost control over Vigo to Italy." 
7:00 October 15, 1940 : 20th Corps has arrived in Orleans." 
7:00 October 15, 1940 : 12th Corps has arrived in Saint Etienne." 
7:00 October 15, 1940 : 15th Corps has arrived in Saint Etienne." 
9:00 October 15, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Troyes." 
10:00 October 15, 1940 : 19th Corps has arrived in Paris." 
12:00 October 15, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Troyes." 
14:00 October 15, 1940 : We have lost control over Troyes to Germany." 
14:00 October 15, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Troyes." 
18:00 October 15, 1940 : We lost a battle against Italy in Montpellier." 
0:00 October 16, 1940 : 23rd Corps has arrived in Tortosa." 
1:00 October 16, 1940 : Our army in Saint Etienne has been completely annihilated!" 
2:00 October 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Aleppo to Italy." 
9:00 October 16, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Gijón." 
17:00 October 16, 1940 : Oman have shared 'Early War Experience Analysis' with us." 
Andrew (France) :	supplies to Barcelona or similar please - germany taking n spai" 
19:00 October 16, 1940 : We are attacked by hostile armies of Germany in Orleans." 
19:00 October 16, 1940 : We have lost control over Gijón to Italy." 
19:00 October 16, 1940 : We lost a battle against Germany in Gijón." 
19:00 October 16, 1940 : 2nd Army has arrived in Paris." 
Chaplain (United Kingdom) :	are we still playing?"
 

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Was Bulgaria Allied before Italy DoWed it? Looks like if neutral Italy DoWs any member of Allies while they are at peace USA will DoW Italy within a few days. Tested by giving Italy DI in Jan 1936 and DoWing Iraq. Not sure if this also happens if a country joins Allies after being DoWed by Italy.
 
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That should then apply for Japan as well....

Its not very realistic that US would go to war over Italy being at war with allies (after all the US did not go to war over Germany being at war with allies, why would they care more about Italy). On the other hand its is more likely that the US would have intervened if Japan had attacked the UK/ holland in Asia.
 

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Are you sure it doesn't happen for Japan? If they declare on the Allies it's usually after Allies are already at war with the Axis isn't it?
 
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You are correct. But the point is that Japan declaring on the Allies (and taking the whole of India for example) has almost no effect on US WE (in fact Japan taking victory provinces in India seems to LOWER US WE -even if japan is PA-).... Whether the allies are already at war with Germany or not when Japan attacks would probably not have made a difference to the US decision of goin/not going to war with Japan