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Now, when I have seen map of Belgium, I remembered one fact. We named provinces in Switzerland and belgium according to official language in those provinces. The same system exists in UK. At the end, it is even called United Kingdom (of English and Scotish crown). So I think that my previous proposal about naming UK provinces is good.
 

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Vladimir II said:
Now, when I have seen map of Belgium, I remembered one fact. We named provinces in Switzerland and belgium according to official language in those provinces. The same system exists in UK. At the end, it is even called United Kingdom (of English and Scotish crown). So I think that my previous proposal about naming UK provinces is good.
No it's not the same situation. Wallon or Flemish names are used in every day life as official. Scotts, Welsh, Irish use English names since few houndreds years. Gaelic, Welsh or Irish names are just second names.
It's like using Kashubian names in northern Poland like Gduńsk as name of Gdańsk or Gdiniô as name of Gdynia used by Kashubians or Silesian names for provinces in Silesia.
 

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There is no local Administration in Wales, Scotland or N.Ireland in 1936 - these places are all just part of the UK. All names should be in English, since no other form would have been used by anyone, barring a small (<1%) segment of the population who had no influence or power.

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HistoryMan said:
There is no local Administration in Wales, Scotland or N.Ireland in 1936 - these places are all just part of the UK. All names should be in English, since no other form would have been used by anyone, barring a small (<1%) segment of the population who had no influence or power.

Tim
All right. No problem. Very culturarly tolerant system...
 

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And now...

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It is great! But it will be even better if you:

- implement correction Fredericia -> Ringkøbing
- write a city name in province Karlajan kannas, as Miihkali noted;
- implement Portugal's provinces;
- slightly correct the look of Gibraltar peninsula;
- correct the province shape in Brittany, to match the actual borders (I will post a map).

Other things are just parfect. :)
 

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Vladimir II said:
It is great! But it will be even better if you:

- implement correction Fredericia -> Ringkøbing
- write a city name in province Karlajan kannas, as Miihkali noted;
- implement Portugal's provinces;
- slightly correct the look of Gibraltar peninsula;
- correct the province shape in Brittany, to match the actual borders (I will post a map).

Other things are just parfect. :)
1. Fredericia was on last version or I missed something.
2. Karlajan kannas - Is it a town name?
3. I have to change this Portugal. I really don't like how it looks.
4. It will be changed when We will have Spanish map.
5. It's based on actual Brittany borders.
 
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since no other form would have been used by anyone, barring a small (<1%) segment of the population who had no influence or power

Granted, they would have had barely any influence or power, but Welsh, Manx, Irish and Scots Gaelic speakers would have numbered more than 1% in 1936.
Oh, and Plaid Cymru was a politically active party in Wales by 1944 with a fair bit of support in the North and Powys.

And Mumia, you're wrong about the naming system- in the 1960s all the Welsh counties were renamed officially into the Welsh language. For example, Monmouthshire became Gwent etc

I have one more thing. As in UK in every federal unit, native language is primal than English, should province names be written in Welsh, Scotish Gaelic, and Irish?

No, there was never any official renaming of Cornish, Scottish, or Welsh towns or cities like there was in Ireland, such as the British did before the Irish Free State in the 1920s. South Wales and the Welsh Marches (Central Welsh Borderlands) use both English and Welsh names (i.e Casnewydd: Newport, Caerdydd: Cardiff) but North and Central Wales are Welsh speaking enough to even make the English use their own, local names ;).

I'd suggest Wales should be three provinces. Cardiff, Aberystwyth, and Swansea.
Cardiff would be the most VP and IC, Aberystwyth would be North Wales, and Swansea would, like Cardiff, also include a large amount of raw materials so as to represent the amount of coal mining and heavy industry there at the time.

Go Cymru! :D
Hope having a Welshman on the case solves this problem!
 

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mehmet12 said:
Granted, they would have had barely any influence or power, but Welsh, Manx, Irish and Scots Gaelic speakers would have numbered more than 1% in 1936.
Oh, and Plaid Cymru was a politically active party in Wales by 1944 with a fair bit of support in the North and Powys.

And Mumia, you're wrong about the naming system- in the 1960s all the Welsh counties were renamed officially into the Welsh language. For example, Monmouthshire became Gwent etc



No, there was never any official renaming of Cornish, Scottish, or Welsh towns or cities like there was in Ireland, such as the British did before the Irish Free State in the 1920s. South Wales and the Welsh Marches (Central Welsh Borderlands) use both English and Welsh names (i.e Casnewydd: Newport, Caerdydd: Cardiff) but North and Central Wales are Welsh speaking enough to even make the English use their own, local names ;).

I'd suggest Wales should be three provinces. Cardiff, Aberystwyth, and Swansea.
Cardiff would be the most VP and IC, Aberystwyth would be North Wales, and Swansea would, like Cardiff, also include a large amount of raw materials so as to represent the amount of coal mining and heavy industry there at the time.

Go Cymru! :D
Hope having a Welshman on the case solves this problem!
3 provinces for Wales - NO. 2 provinces. :)
Great Britain:
-Vanilla map - 21 provinces
-E3 map - max 24 provinces
 
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mumia:

1. Yes, on the last drawn map. But then a Danish member noted that it should be Ringkøbing.
2. Karlajan kannas - istmus name. City name - posted by Miihkali, somewhere back. :(
3. I like it. :(
4. All right.
5. I am not sure. I will need to check.
 

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Vladimir II said:
mumia:

1. Yes, on the last drawn map. But then a Danish member noted that it should be Ringkøbing.
2. Karlajan kannas - istmus name. City name - posted by Miihkali, somewhere back. :(
3. I like it. :(
4. All right.
5. I am not sure. I will need to check.
1. OK, I'll change it to Ringkøbing.
2. OK, I'll change it to Karlajan kannas.
3. Continental Portugal should have no more than 6 or 7 provinces. Portugal was neutral, but sometimes join the war in HoI2 so could have that 1 or 2 additional provinces. And that tiny southern province on the east bank of the river has to be merged and this river should be moved on the east to the Sanish border.
5. I'm sure in 100%.
 
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No mumia, you missunderstood. Karjalan kannas is the istmus name, not city name. City name is some completely different name, posted by Miihkali.
All right, you can merge that small province in Portugal, but rest of provinces stay.