E3 Map

[Fürstbischof]

I trust and support your decision with closed eyes Fürstbischof!!

Besides this confidence, how I wish to help you (only if you need fresh troops and accept me as your subordinate... ). When I find time I will let you know.

You ask to be thrown into the meat grinder...?

If you want to help - and find the time to do it - please look more closely at the IC & resources of Spain & Portugal.

Keep the good work!

I'll try my best but sometimes I even introduce my own bugs...

 

[datachild]

I simply merged the original file with the file in the rar archive (see atachement). It seems to work, but maybe some bugs will occur later.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Still lots of "unknown_string not found".
It seems the config\extra_text.csv in E3 map v0.5a.rar is faulty, taking the original 1.05 file corrects the strings. I don't know however what was changed to include this file in the E3 mod.
The other bugs are fixed with the new files.

The AOD devs have reorganised the content of all .csv files in the config sub-directory with the latest patch. Now the names of all ares/regions can be found in the world_names.csv file but before several names were stored elsewhere (in the extra_text.csv file). With the reorganisation of the files all information from this file, which is actually not part of the adapted files, is lost. This results in several "unknown_string not found". I had already asked Jounk35 for a quick fix but it seems that he simply had not the time to do it. Since I've already done some minor changes to the adj-defs.csv I planned to update the world_names.csv file by myself.

 

[Fürstbischof]

I simply merged the original file with the file in the rar archive (see atachement). It seems to work, but maybe some bugs will occur later.

Thanks! I'll look later, i.e. tomorrow, more closely at your quick fix. Maybe the solution is actually that simple?

 

[Fürstbischof]

Hello my esteemed forumites!

I think I have done something wrong trying to install E3-map over my AoD copy...

Once I choose in the menu E3 Grand-Campaign Scenario, following error message appears:

Critical error!

---missing eventdatabase:db\events\USA_AI.txt

---

Do you still want to continue?

I press ¨to omit¨ (if I press ¨retried¨ program crash and return to Windows... )

After this, a second message appears:

---Couldn't open file:scenarios\E3-1936\vp.inc

---

Do you still want to continue?

I press ¨to omit¨ again, and I return to Windows...

In advance thank you very much for any advice!

Ok, now with the updated files uploaded this bug won't occur any longer but you can solve it by setting a # at the beginning of its line in the 1936 scenario file (0_gc_1936.eug).

I'm surprised that the choice 'omit' has such dramatic consequences. I tried to reproduce this bug but after I chose the (third) option to 'Ignore' which I typically use the scenario simply continues to load. There might be another problem hiding in the shadows. But I hope that the 1936 scenario starts now for you as flawlessly as it should.

 

[Fürstbischof]

Same here. Further, when I'm able to start the game there are "unknown string"s everywhere (see attachments).
Besides the menu-tabs and some descriptions, some of the options to start the game are unknown strings.

Your screenshot shows another type of the "unknown string wanted" bug which I wasn't aware of. I remember that I've read during the v1.05 betatest that several players were plagued by these. Luckily I had never to suffer from those which would have harmed the adaption of the E3 map massively. As you can see I don't even have this problem now. (...)

The only type of the "unknown string wanted" bug which our little mod atm causes are the missing names of several areas/regions of the worldmap because all other files (besides the province_names.csv and the world_names.csv file) are unchanged, i.e. the E3 map mod uses the vanilla game files. I don't know what the exact reason for their bugs were but iirc they simply reinstalled their game and then they were gone.

EDIT: Is it possible to make a 1.05 all in one rar archive, that would eliminate many errors on the user side and you could present a checksum to check the correct installation of the game.

I can't give you a checksum because I use a heavily modded game. But maybe one of the other fellows might post his checksum so that you can compare?

I'm hesitating to put all the files in one big archive because atm we have (fairly) regular updates and I don't want to force to download the big package regularly even if we've changed only some small scenario files. Once when most of the work is actually done we might reconsider this.

 

[DSA]

Fürstbischof, Caesar_Augustus, datachild: thanks to all! For me is a pleasure to have such positive and constructive people like you in this forum

I will download the updated files and re-install everything once again.

Kind regards from Spain,

 

[datachild]

Your screenshot shows another type of the "unknown string wanted" bug which I wasn't aware of. I remember that I've read during the v1.05 betatest that several players were plagued by these. Luckily I had never to suffer from those which would have harmed the adaption of the E3 map massively. As you can see I don't even have this problem now.

Like I said after merging the files, the problem is fixed and I didn't encounter other "unknownstrings" yet. Until 1938 no problems with this file.

 

[DSA]

Reinstalled and everything seems to be ok! :rofl: Checksum HLHL.
No ¨unknownstrings¨ so far... map looks beautiful!

I will keep in touch. Thanks once again for your help guys

 

[Caesar_Augustus]

Fürstbischof, Caesar_Augustus, datachild: thanks to all! For me is a pleasure to have such positive and constructive people like you in this forum

I will download the updated files and re-install everything once again.

Kind regards from Spain,

Happy to know that things are looking up for you! Yes, the E3 Map is truly a marvel... Ah, España... la conozco bien, pues vivo en La Comarca (Ah, Spain... I know it well, for I live in The Shire)

 

[Gringoesteban]

I am running a handsoff test as Dominican Republic and have a couple bugs to report.

* upon launching the game, I get an error message 'missing eventdatabase:db\events\USA_AI.txt' I saw that this had already been reported in an earlier post

* when the Vichy France event fires, France retains ownership of the province of Toulouse. In other words, there is a big blue French province right in the middle of white Vichy France.

* various map issues regarding the need to balance resources so countries can utilize all their IC, the need to reduce infrastruture in say China and Russia, too many beach provinces, and so forth, but I know people are already working to improve the map.

 

[datachild]

It seems the events for the jap-china war are missing?

 

[datachild]

It seems the events for the jap-china war are missing? If not whats the trigger/in which file can I find them?
EDIT: Problem solved, sorry for double post.

 

[Fürstbischof]

It seems the events for the jap-china war are missing? If not whats the trigger/in which file can I find them?
EDIT: Problem solved, sorry for double post.

You can find the two events in the hoi2.txt:
#20;Marco Polo Bridge incident
#21;Marco Polo Bridge incident

If they don't fire it might be because of this trigger:

random = 50

It's a sad surprise if you count on it. Reloading helps.

 

[Fürstbischof]

I am running a handsoff test as Dominican Republic and have a couple bugs to report.

* upon launching the game, I get an error message 'missing eventdatabase:db\events\USA_AI.txt' I saw that this had already been reported in an earlier post

Already solved.

* when the Vichy France event fires, France retains ownership of the province of Toulouse. In other words, there is a big blue French province right in the middle of white Vichy France.

I don't know when I fixed this missing province but it must have been quite a long time ago. You can easily check yourself whether the province #359 is included for Vichy in your revolt.txt. If you download the most recent scenario files you shouldn't see this happen again. But Vichy creation is a good point to investigate further because I rather dislike how the transfer of forces to Vichy is handled.

* various map issues regarding the need to balance resources so countries can utilize all their IC, the need to reduce infrastruture in say China and Russia, too many beach provinces, and so forth, but I know people are already working to improve the map.

Pick a major or a few minors of your choice and investigate this issue further!

Yes, IC & resources are on our to-do list and this complex task might not be easily fixed. We need all help we can get to create a functional - and hopefully historical! - representation of the ww2 economies.

re beaches you might look at this old post from me which hadn't got the necessary attention:

E3 beach contest
​

If you look at the E3 map you'll see that almost any coastal province has a beach and a port. It seems to be worthwhile to look more closely at contemporary maps to determine how many of these are actually warranted or needed. Especially the abundance of beaches isn't to the advantage of the ai. If we want the ai once to be a worthwhile opponent we should handle this task carefully. As long as a division is the smallest land unit we can easily overextend it which makes the game even more easier than planned.

Therefore I start now a beach contest. Please report any coastal province with a beach or port which isn't suitable for it. If you find a province, which is missing both or only one of them, that in reality does have these, report it here, too. Check also carefully if ships enter ports from the right seazone.

Some harbour symbols are misplaced. While cross-checking ports and beaches you'll naturally stumble across these instances. We're willing to move these to a more appropriate position on the map but you have to tell us the exact x/y position and maybe the new port seazone. Since it's then a simple matter of copy&paste you can expect that we'll add it. The exact x/y positions of ports (and beaches) can be found in the province.csv file.

 

[Caesar_Augustus]

Fürstbischof: Not that this might be all that important, but I have found that the scenario E3-1936 USA.inc file has some error(s) that make(s) it impossible to open the 0_gc_1936 scenario.txt file with the original HoI 2 game editor. I find that this original game editor is rather useful to "check" provinces, ministers, diplomacy relations, OOBs and Tech apps. So when trying to open your 0_gc_1936 scenario file, it would not do so, but I have corrected it: it seems to have something to do with the "duplication" in provinces owned and controlled, which I have proceeded to delete. I have also done a copy/paste of all the USA national, owned and controlled E3 Map provinces from another trusted file and this seems to have done it, and now I can open the 0_gc_1936 scenario file with the HoI 2 game editor! Here's the corrected (?) part of the text of the USA.inc if you should wish to review it:

USA.inc
#E3 map adapted to AOD by Fürstbischof-july 9
#
##############################
# Country definition for USA #
##############################

{...}

nationalprovinces = { 651 650 649 648 677 676 672 646 647 670 644 645 634 636 637 643 633 632 638 639 606 607 605 604
603 612 602 598 592 608 609 610 594 595 596 582 583 600 601 613 614 629 630 640 641 642 671 673
675 678 679 615 628 617 616 618 619 627 680 681 682 683 684 686 688 689 626 625 620 621 624 623
622 690 691 693 694 698 699 787 788 789 790 792 793 711 712 713 715 716 717 719 721 748 724
725 727 728 730 731 732 733 706 707 708 709 705 704 701 770 772 776 779 780 782 783 784 786 778
768 734 735 767 761 762 763 764 765 766 553 550 549 548 718 895 889 1278 2365 2367 2377 2261 2259 2255
}
ownedprovinces = { 651 650 649 648 677 676 672 646 647 670 644 645 634 636 637 643 633 632 638 639 606 607 605 604
603 612 602 598 592 608 609 610 594 595 596 582 583 600 601 613 614 629 630 640 641 642 671 673
675 678 679 615 628 617 616 618 619 627 680 681 682 683 684 686 688 689 626 625 620 621 624 623
622 690 691 693 694 698 699 787 788 789 790 792 793 711 712 713 715 716 717 719 721 748 724
725 727 728 730 731 732 733 706 707 708 709 705 704 701 770 772 776 779 780 782 783 784 786 778
768 734 735 767 761 762 763 764 765 766 553 550 549 548 718 895 889 658 659 660 662 663 1766 1786
1624 1765 1755 1760 1763 894 794 1278 2365 2367 2377 2261 2259 2255
}
controlledprovinces = { 651 650 649 648 677 676 672 646 647 670 644 645 634 636 637 643 633 632 638 639 606 607 605 604
603 612 602 598 592 608 609 610 594 595 596 582 583 600 601 613 614 629 630 640 641 642 671 673
675 678 679 615 628 617 616 618 619 627 680 681 682 683 684 686 688 689 626 625 620 621 624 623
622 690 691 693 694 698 699 787 788 789 790 792 793 711 712 713 715 716 717 719 721 748 724
725 727 728 730 731 732 733 706 707 708 709 705 704 701 770 772 776 779 780 782 783 784 786 778
768 734 735 767 761 762 763 764 765 766 553 550 549 548 718 895 889 658 659 660 662 663 1766 1786
1624 1765 1755 1760 1763 894 794 1278 2365 2367 2377 2261 2259 2255
}
# Early Escort Carriers
# USA 1936 techs
# ######################

{...}

 

[Fürstbischof]

Fürstbischof: Not that this might be all that important, but I have found that the scenario E3-1936 USA.inc file has some error(s) that make(s) it impossible to open the 0_gc_1936 scenario.txt file with the original HoI 2 game editor. I find that this original game editor is rather useful to "check" provinces, ministers, diplomacy relations, OOBs and Tech apps. So when trying to open your 0_gc_1936 scenario file, it would not do so, but I have corrected it: it seems to have something to do with the "duplication" in provinces owned and controlled, which I have proceeded to delete. I have also done a copy/paste of all the USA national, owned and controlled E3 Map provinces from another trusted file and this seems to have done it, and now I can open the 0_gc_1936 scenario file with the HoI 2 game editor! Here's the corrected (?) part of the text of the USA.inc if you should wish to review it:

I've tried the editor recently again and wasn't so fond of it. Since I'm mainly checking the files for inconsistencies it was never important for the adaption to the E3 map - luckily, because it's imho not so easy to use. And it's buggy, too.

It may be that the HOI2 Editor is unable to read AOD files but I'm quite sure that there is no bug in the US scenario file. If there would be a bug then you'd get a warning message from the game itself. During the adaption of the ai/event/scenario files I've undone all changes to any file which led to the ominous message which stated that the scenario has been loaded with errors. The primary guideline for the adaption was a error-free start of the game.

If I examine the US scenario file more closely I can tell you that the general overhaul of this file is overdue. It even has the original AOD set of provinces included, but these are inactive ('#'). Especially the air and naval bases need a re-asssessment but that involves reading quite a lot of stuff so that won't be finished in the next week(s).

There's definitely room for improvement. If you look at the current version of the USA as a revolter you can see that I've already started to sort things out:

USA = {
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1934 }
expirydate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1990 }
minimum = { 606 }
extra = {
651 650 649 648 677 676 672 646 647 670 644 645 634 636
637 643 633 632 638 639 607 605 604 603 612 602 598
592 608 609 610 594 595 596 582 583 600 601 613 614
629 630 640 641 642 671 673 675 678 679 615 628 617 616 618
619 627 680 681 682 683 684 686 688 689 626 625 620 621
624 623 622 690 691 693 694 698 699 787 788 789
790 792 793 710 711 712 713 715 716 717 719 721 748
723 724 725 727 728 730 731 732 733 706 707 708 709
705 704 701 770 772 776 779 780
782 783 784 786 778 768 734 735 767 761 762 763
764 765 766 553 551 550 549 548 718
1278 2255 2259 2261 2365 2367 2377
735 761 762 763 764 765 766 # California
686 711 715 716 717 718 719 721 748 # Texas
# overseas territories
658 659 660 662 663 794 889 894 895 1624 1755 1760 1763 1765 1766 1786
}
capital = 606
}

But the big pile of ids needs some work (and time). I'd appreciate if you take the time to finish this task. Several other scenario files (UK, FRA, China) might be a guideline for you. Finally the US scenario file should look like the UK file:

ownedprovinces = {
# England
10 11 12 13 14 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 1160 1164 1720 2245
# Scotland
3 5 6 7 8 9 1165 1166
# North Ireland
29 28
# Wales
15 1409
# Gibraltar
348
# Malta
31
# Cyprus
444
# Hong Kong
1315
# Singapore
1353
# Bermuda, Ascension, Saint Helena, Falklands
538 866 1147 1148
# overseas territories (post-cold war)
573 584 587 795 896 #Caribbean
# Labrador, Newfoundland
575 576
# Belize
758
# Jamaica
891
# Trinidad & Tobago
808 809
# Guyana
873 871
# British India
593 597 599 611 631 635 669 685 687 697 702 703 714 722 726 729 736 769 771 773 774 775 781 785 791 1458 1459 1460 1461 1462 1463 1464 1465 1466 1467 1468 1469 1470 1471 1472 1476 1477 1478 1479 1505 1506 1507 1508 1509 1510 1511 1513 1514 1515 1694 1695 1699 1701 1705 1721 1758 2091 2092 2094 2099 2106 2124 2133 2175 2198 2199
# East Bengal/Assam
1284 1287 1454 1456 1457 1519 1877 1878 2043 2104 2592
# Pakistan
1475 1480 1481 1482 1483 1494 1592
# East Pakistan
1285 1286 1288 1590
# Kashmir
1474 1430 1731
# Ceylon
1516 1517 1591
# Laccadive Islands
2085
# Maldive Islands
1817
# Andaman and Nicobar Islands
1518
# Burma
1290 1291 1292 1295 1296 1297 1298 1299 1300 1301 1302 1304 1305 1346 1898
# Trans-Jordan
# Israel
404 406 1797 1798 1881
# Jordania
407 1796 1802 1803 1882
# Egypt
902 903 904 905 906 907 909 910 911 912 913 914 915
4 1020 1021 1023 1024 1025 1026 1027
1799 1800 1801 # Sinai
900 901 # Suez Canal zone
# Sudan
1028 1029 1030 1031 1032 1040 1041 1065 1066 1067 1068 1069 2334
# Kuwait
1822
# Arabia
700 1906
# Oman
1504
# Yemen
1813 1814 1815
# Gambia
982
# Sierra Leone
988
# Ghana
1000 1001 1002
# Nigeria
999 1007 1008 1009 1010 1011 1012 1085 1126 1145
# Lesotho, Swaziland
975 1820
# Botswana
1105 1111 1112
# Rhodesia/Simbabwe
1124 1125
# Zambia
1099 1104 1128 1129
# Nyasaland/Malawi
1132
# Tanganyika
1062 1139 1140 1141
# Zanzibar
2538
# Uganda
1064 2284
# Kenya
1059 1060 1061
# British Somaliland
1035
# Malaysia
1349 1350 1351 1352 1553 1554
# Sarawak
1644 1647
# Brunei
1646
# overseas territories (post-ww2)
572 586 591 652 805 806 807 897 #Caribbean
1136 1816 2234 2238 #Indian Ocean
1605 1606 1607 1609 1610 1611 1686 1756 1759 1764 #Pacific Ocean
1614 1622 1683 1684 1685 #Salomons

Sadly, this buggy forum doesn't support tabs which'd do wonders to improve the readibility.

 

[Caesar_Augustus]

Well, fine, I'll see what I can do, Fürstbischof! Unfortunately time is a most precious commodity that is lacking...

It is indeed nice to have the provinces sorted out by regions,
as you have done, but I'm afraid I don't see the practical use for this...
Then again, there may be a practical use for remapping areas and regions maybe, and perhaps
there are other uses that my ignorance fails to see for the moment.

Since this is an interesting initiative by you, surely there must be good reasons for it

 

[Fürstbischof]

Well, fine, I'll see what I can do, Fürstbischof! Unfortunately time is a most precious commodity that is lacking...

It is indeed nice to have the provinces sorted out by regions,
as you have done, but I'm afraid I don't see the practical use for this...

Don't you?

Then again, there may be a practical use for remapping areas and regions maybe, and perhaps there are other uses that my ignorance fails to see for the moment.

1. revolt.txt: revolters & releasable colonies
2. ares/regions map
3. other scenario files
4. event files
5. ai files
6. track unused province ids

If you don' know where exactly a province id located is you'll have to check the map each time. Or if you don't know all the claims of the neighbouring nations you risk assigning the wrong province ids to minimum/extra in revolt.txt. In some cases I had to check very carefully how to assign provinces. In Arma (or AOD) you could often not release a nation although you owned most of its provinces, simply because province ids had been carelessly assigned to minimum/extra. I should mention that in AOD/E3 you can actually release the Confederated States or - e.g. as Japan - both chinese minors which replace Shanxi and Nat. China.

In this regard is the revolt.txt file not an exact copy of its vanilla companion it's a mod of its own.

Since this is an interesting initiative by you, surely there must be good reasons for it

The general idea was to make the adaption of other mods to the E3 map as easy as possible. But during the next weeks I won't have that much time which I can spend on improving the AOD/E3 files so it'd fine if we could gather some helping hands to finish the last major task: IC & resources.

 

[Caesar_Augustus]

Well, hehe... my ignorance has been proved to be great indeed, thanks for enlightening me, dear friend! My modding experience is far less than yours, so that must explain it! Oh, dear Lord, the IC and resources... now that will take some time, make no mistake!