Dynasty Name for Pepin's Descendants?

[Zolotaya]

What about something along the lines of the Rhineland?

Since the actual border areas were only recently (past 300 or so years) finalized, I'd say that any pre-EU realm still would not carry such a name historically. Now, if I were playing and I was playing a non-rp type of game, I think something like this would work quite well; especially since the player would more than likely never lose what was gained.

Well Francia Media consisted of Lotharingia, Burgundy/Arelat and Italy; the northern bit once the core area of Austrasia was only known as Lotharingia. Lotharingia wasn't named after emperor Lothar, but after his 2nd son king* Lothar II. (*= King of Lotharingia, though every Carolingian king was a king of the Franks).

While true, @mudcrabmerchant was trying to come up with some non-Lothar based names in post #16, so that was my goal in fielding alternatives to Lotharingia. I prefer Lotharingia for the 867 start in place of Middle Francia; for the actual 769 start I'd personally divide the area into Austrasia, Arlet and Burgundian kingdoms. Off the top of my head, I can not remember if a Catholic pope sanctioned Lotharingia or if the only legitimacy it had were the various treaties. I know a Pope did sanction the Austrasia, Arlet and Burgundian kingdoms so that is why I prefer them to be both de jure and de facto kingdoms in the 769 start.

 

[TheDungen]

The only problem with Lorraine is that that name is just a corruption of Lotharingia. I think Capetia is the best choice.

Is i? I thought it was named so because it was in the rhine valley.

 

[mrstevehazzard]

Is i? I thought it was named so because it was in the rhine valley.

That's what I'm under the impression it's from. I did a quick Google search and it seems to confirm it, though your explanation makes sense too.

http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/lorraine

 

[TheDungen]

That's what I'm under the impression it's from. I did a quick Google search and it seems to confirm it, though your explanation makes sense too.

http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/lorraine

Could the river be named for the kingdom then? Or lothar named for the river rhine? Or is it just that the name lotharingia have drifter towards the word rhine, because they are associated with one another, thus becomming lorraine.

Then again they sound nothing alike lorraine (in french) sounds like lurren while rhine sounds like rhan.