Dutch riots

[unmerged(739896)]

Hi there,

I usually play as a Dutch OPM and form the Netherlands by allying France and crushing Burgundy, however this has an impact on the Burgundian succession that gives everything to (most of the times) Austria. I was wondering if instead of declaring war against the Burgundy every 5 years, then against Austria and the whole HRE it would be a better idea to just settle with the ones required to form the country, then wait for the Dutch riots of 1550ish.

Not very familiar to the mechanism though. Are the riots successful? Will the provinces just join the Netherlands if they manage to break freeor will I need to core those territories?

Any information on the subject is very welcome!

 

[zoltiuS]

The best strategy in my opinion is take dutch provinces from burgundy, then take 1 province from burgundy to release as vassals hainut, brabant and flandes. When the burgundy sucession fires the provinces go to brabant and hainut instead of Austria, i tought that was the same with flandes but those went to Austria in my playtrough, but later in one single war you can return cores. This way is pretty fast.

 

[Marcus Septim]

i dont think any riots will happen once you form netherlands at least they never happen to me

 

[Noctus]

I had the formed Netherlands as a vassal in my latest campaign, and the provinces were stilll revolting to join them.

 

[Marcus Septim]

if they are ai yes revolts happen but as player (im frequent netherlands player) never happend to me

 

[unmerged(739896)]

So the AI really hate the player!

Thanks for your answers, I'll try my best to conquer what I can before the king dies at the worst time possible.

 

[unmerged(739896)]

Sorry for bumping back the thread but the situation has evolved and I'd like an answer.

As Friesland, I was ready to attack Burgundy after getting the surrounding OPM Dutch cores (Utrecht and Gelre) then the inheritance happened. Never really played under such circumstances, as I usually jump on Burgundy ASAP and peace out if the event fires, giving me at least one or two vassals with their Dutch and Flemish culture provinces. This time I got nothing, France and Austria own everything now.

Will the Dutch revolt event fire under these circumstances?

I don't want to restart, it's been such a fun game so far.

 

[bartjas86]

I would say the event will still happen, since AI still controls them. However it might aswell be possible the event only triggers when they are under burgundy Rule. But i think thats less likely the case, I think the main trigger for the event is the Provinces have to be under AI/or player control not being a dutch culture.

 

[Narkis]

Yeah, I was playing Austria last week, inherited Burgundy, and the Dutch riots happened on schedule.