Dutch revolts

[RedPhoenix]

#Dutch Nobility demands General Estates#
event = {

id = 3325
trigger = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 337 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 338 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 339 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 340 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 377 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 378 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 379 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 380 data = -1 }
}
AND = {
NOT = {
domestic = {
type = innovative
value = 8
}
}
}
}

This is the french event for the dutch revolts, it gives +10 RR to those provinces. Now in this event there is no trigger about being a protestant or reformed. Yet the events that remove the RR have trigger NOT=protestant, NOT=reformed ... so the RR will never go away. Its perma for the rest of the game untill the province changes hands if it ever does.

I don't think this is how it was ment to be.

Either the first event should have trigger about protestand / reformed too, or it should be removed from the other 2, so that a protestant or reformed can get rid of the RR too.

Anyway, weren't the dutch revolts about religion, if your country was reformed, what reason is there to be revolts in the first place?

 

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Don't have it with me right now, but the last event (Repatriation of the Netherlands) does NOT have the protestant/reformed exclusions in the trigger. Did you play this out and have the revolt risk not disappear? I have played it as a protestant, and the event fired correctly.

The Dutch revolts were about a lot of things - centralization was one of them.

And for gameplay purposes it is good if the Netherlands form.

edit: I'm playing the official 1.07 patch.

 

[RedPhoenix]

Originally posted by Isaac Brock
Don't have it with me right now, but the last event (Repatriation of the Netherlands) does NOT have the protestant/reformed exclusions in the trigger. Did you play this out and have the revolt risk not disappear? I have played it as a protestant, and the event fired correctly.

The Dutch revolts were about a lot of things - centralization was one of them.

And for gameplay purposes it is good if the Netherlands form.

edit: I'm playing the official 1.07 patch.

I'm talking about a situation where netherlands forms, and as a reformed france for example you hold artois or such. You won't get any events that reduce the RR in the provinces... but as a catholic france you get these events.

Isn't that a conflict ?? considering this whole issue was about religious issues? shouldnt a reformed france be more tolerant to the reformed dutch than a catholic france? thus atleast the same if not lower revolt risk? Now the reformed france suffers full revolt risk while catholic one gets it reduced, and even removed?

Also the repatiation of netherlands events where netherlands is subjugated... will only fire if you still hold the dutch and they havent revolted away yes?

I mean in a game I had revolt risk still in the 18th century....

 

[BiB]

#The Repatriation of the Netherlands#
event = {

	id = 3544
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			event = 3325
			event = 3326
			event = 3327
		}
		
		
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3544"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3544"
	style = 3

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1648 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1649 }

	action_a ={			#The Netherlands is Subjugated#
		name = "ACTIONNAME3544A"
		command = { type = conversion which = 380 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 337 value = -30 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = -30 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = -30 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = -30 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 377 value = -27 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 378 value = -27 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 379 value = -27 }
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 380 value = -27 }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 3 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 300 }
		command = { type = stability value = 3 }
	}

Seems fine to me?

 

[BiB]

Also the revolts weren't all about religion, hence there is no religion trigger in teh first event

 

[RedPhoenix]

Look at the points marked with stars.



#The Dutch Revolt is successful!#
event = {

id = 3816
trigger = {
exists = HOL
NOT = {
religion = protestant ********************
religion = reformed ********************
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 337 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 338 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 339 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 340 data = -1 }
}
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "EVENTNAME3816"
desc = "EVENTHIST3816"
style = 2

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1555 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1648 }

action_a = { # Curses!
name = "ACTIONNAME3816A"
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HOL value = 337 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HOL value = 338 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HOL value = 339 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = HOL value = 340 }
}
}



#The Duke of Mayenne and the Union of Arras#
event = {

id = 3327
trigger = {
NOT = {
religion = protestant ********************
religion = reformed ********************
}
event = 3325
event = 3326
OR = {
owned = { province = 337 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 338 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 339 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 340 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 377 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 378 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 379 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 380 data = -1 }
}
AND = {
NOT = {
domestic = {
type = innovative
value = 8
}
}
}
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "EVENTNAME3327"
desc = "EVENTHIST3327"
style = 2

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1575 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1586 }

action_a ={ #Sign the Union of Arras#
name = "ACTIONNAME3327A"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 337 value = 10 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = 10 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = 10 }
command = { type = revolt which = 339 } #Holland
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = 10 }
command = { type = revolt which = 340 } #Zeeland
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 377 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 378 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 379 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 380 value = -7 }
command = { type = treasury value = -200 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}

action_b ={ #No Concessions#
name = "ACTIONNAME3327B"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 337 value = 10 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = 10 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = 10 }
command = { type = revolt which = 339 } #Holland
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = 10 }
command = { type = revolt which = 340 } #Zeeland
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 377 value = 7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 378 value = 7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 379 value = 7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 380 value = 7 }
command = { type = revolt which = 380 } #Flandern
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
command = { type = treasury value = 300 }
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
}

action_c ={ #Sign the Union of Arras and lower taxes#
name = "ACTIONNAME3327C"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 337 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 377 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 378 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 379 value = -7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 380 value = -7 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}

}



#The Duke of Guise and the Edict of Blood#
event = {

id = 3326
trigger = {
event = 3325
NOT = {
religion = protestant ********************
religion = reformed ********************
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 337 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 338 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 339 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 340 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 377 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 378 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 379 data = -1 }
owned = { province = 380 data = -1 }
}
AND = {
NOT = {
domestic = {
type = innovative
value = 8
}
}
}
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "EVENTNAME3326"
desc = "EVENTHIST3326"
style = 2

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1565 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1576 }

action_a ={ #No Concessions#
name = "ACTIONNAME3326A"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 337 value = 10 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = 10 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = 10 }
command = { type = revolt which = 339 } #Holland
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = 10 }
command = { type = revolt which = 340 } #Zeeland
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 377 value = 7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 378 value = 7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 379 value = 7 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 380 value = 7 }
command = { type = revolt which = 380 } #Flandern
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
command = { type = treasury value = 300 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}

action_b ={ #Don't introduce that Consumption Tax#
name = "ACTIONNAME3326B"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 337 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 338 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 339 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 340 value = 5 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 377 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 378 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 379 value = 2 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 380 value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
}
}

 

[RedPhoenix]

Repatriation of netherlands says its subjugated? Isnt that only the case if netherlands doesnt form? Not sure if I understand the event right

Union of arras event would atleast drop the RR for the french provinces too
Naturally I guess it should be reverse though since catholic provinces should be the ones not in favor of france.

But anyway, I have had instances where there is perma RR even after 1648... ? Had it still in the 18th century... thats a bug I think atleast.

 

[BiB]

Originally posted by RedPhoenix
Repatriation of netherlands says its subjugated? Isnt that only the case if netherlands doesnt form? Not sure if I understand the event right

Union of arras event would atleast drop the RR for the french provinces too
Naturally I guess it should be reverse though since catholic provinces should be the ones not in favor of france.

But anyway, I have had instances where there is perma RR even after 1648... ? Had it still in the 18th century... thats a bug I think atleast.

The event happens when u get any Dutch revolt event.

 

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It is true that the revolt risk in (say) Artois will not go away even after the Netherlands form. However, if you wait for the repatriation in 1648 the revoltrisk will be cleared. It doesn't exactly match the event text either, but functionally it works.