Dutch & Netherland Overhaul

[Riwebo]

Hello!
Do you have ideas, wishes, suggestions for changes of Holland and the Netherlands?
I was thinking about the Orangists vs. Statists mechanism, elections, missions, national ideas. Which values to change or replace - for example when the Orangists are in power there is a 25% more army limit, which I never use because I have to dismiss them as soon as the statists are in power. There would be more interesting 10% more land morale
and would imho also historically reflect that the common soldiers were mostly followers of the Stadholder(Orangists).

I would be happy if you could tell me your wishes and thoughts.

 

[holyvigil]

I don't have any personal suggestions specific to the Netherlands but you could try searching the suggestion forum for EU4. I'm sure there's plenty of Netherlands suggestions there.

 

[sjobenrit]

remove east frisia from the netherlands region

 

[Big Bad France]

Change the disaster mechanics that form them. It makes no sense that rebels spawn, I put the rebels down, and then The Netherlands forms, anyway. Just make the disaster form The Netherlands without the rebel stacks coming first.

 

[Pbhuh]

remove east frisia from the netherlands region

First of all, there is no netherlands region, its the low countries, second East Frisia is just part of the Frisian area, which makes perfect sense.
Only when the Netherlands as an entity leaves the HRE in 1648 is it debatable if east frisia should be part of the region, but then again, Liege is also part of the Low Countries, you can't really claim Liege shouldn't be in the Low Countries, even though it was never part of the Netherlands (either the republic or the spanish/austrian) until 1815.

 

[sjobenrit]

First of all, there is no netherlands region, its the low countries, second East Frisia is just part of the Frisian area, which makes perfect sense.
Only when the Netherlands as an entity leaves the HRE in 1648 is it debatable if east frisia should be part of the region, but then again, Liege is also part of the Low Countries, you can't really claim Liege shouldn't be in the Low Countries, even though it was never part of the Netherlands (either the republic or the spanish/austrian) until 1815.

but but but the borders!

 

[Pbhuh]

but but but the borders!

Nothing is stopping you from owning the province.

Really confused why people have such a fixation on modern borders in a game starting in the year 1444.

 

[Blackwhitecavias]

First of all, there is no netherlands region, its the low countries, second East Frisia is just part of the Frisian area, which makes perfect sense.
Only when the Netherlands as an entity leaves the HRE in 1648 is it debatable if east frisia should be part of the region, but then again, Liege is also part of the Low Countries, you can't really claim Liege shouldn't be in the Low Countries, even though it was never part of the Netherlands (either the republic or the spanish/austrian) until 1815.

To be fair Netherlands literally means low countries, so it wouldn't that big of a wrong name (not disagreeing with your other points)

 

[sjobenrit]

Nothing is stopping you from owning the province.

Really confused why people have such a fixation on modern borders in a game starting in the year 1444.

because the dutch revolt almost always fires and so guarantees that east frisia joins the netherlands. As a player I dont mind it