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Well, that was disappointing. I expected the British to put up more resistance. I see that you are nearly done all of your goals. What remains is USA. If it's not too much trouble, could you have an update that focuses on the development of Europe? I'm really curious how the Soviets are doing in the east along with all the ahistorical changes that have taken place.
 

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Foei ! Dont go all NSB with my country please :p

I can sincerely tell you that the NSB is still a minor party and the ARP is doing great, so no worries (eventhough I tried everything to get the NSB on top).

Well, that was disappointing. I expected the British to put up more resistance. I see that you are nearly done all of your goals. What remains is USA. If it's not too much trouble, could you have an update that focuses on the development of Europe? I'm really curious how the Soviets are doing in the east along with all the ahistorical changes that have taken place.

To be honest I expected a lot more resitance too and also, I was very lucky (I can only assume I have been) that the British Navy was not closeby to take my forces out when trying to land..... twice!

I am working on my next update right now and I'll include a screenshot of Europe if I have a good one. Though I can tell you that it was a lot of bluf from the Soviets by declaring war. They do not dare to invade Poland or Romania in order to get to us. So basically they just sit and wait for us to make a (bad) move.
 

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Chapter 5: Operation : Toro Naranja

In the aftermath of the defeat of the UK the remaining Allied nations abandoned their alliance and gave up their fight against the Axis. As Japan already conquered India and other parts of Asia, these territories subdued to Japan, Italy made it’s way in North Africa and the Middle East and as conquerer was given these territories. All other former British territories were annexed by the Netherlands, which meant large parts of Africa, a small bit east of Canada and in the Carribean. Japan held their end of the bargain and gave Borneo and the Singapore region to the Dutch.

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The new Dutch East Indies

July 20, 1940 – Prince Bernhard invited the Dutch Cabinet and high command to ‘Noordeinde’ Palace, which normally was Queen Wilhelmina’s working palace in the Hague but since the start of the war, he occupied the palace as his own working palace setting aside his mother-in-law. The Prince asked his ministers and army leaders how the plans were with the invasion of the US. He was very displeased to hear that they could not agree with a few things such as where to invade and where to invade, in addition having only major ports in northern Europe would possibly cause problems with supply lines if American submarines would patrol that area. This would halt any invasion quite fast or even cause a failure due to lack of supplies. It was Field Marshall Seyffardt that suggested the invasion of Spain and Portugal to have more flexibility. They all agreed that it would be the best option and also would open up other possibilities for the invasion of the US. Later that day a small fleet carrying 3 corps of 1st Army set sail to Gibraltar while 2 corps of 1st Army headed towards the north eastern border.

Within a week the plans were made and 1st Army was in place and ready to fight in Spain. On July 28th the Netherlands declared war on Spain and from two sides, Dutch forces attacked the Spanish armies.

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2 Front invasion of Spain, Summer 1940

Spain learned from the mistakes made by France and the UK, but they were still behind in technology and fighting with outdated weapons compared to the well equipped and modern Dutch army. The Spanish army, with their experience gained from the civil war, fought fiercely and were not about to give up without a fight. Especially their cavalery proved to be a pain for the Dutch always trying to cut off the supply lines, but the Dutch would not give up and always had the bigger picture in their minds.

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Dutch advance in Spain, Summer 1940

Back in the Netherlands Prince Bernhard urged high command to complete the plans to invade the US. It was his intention to set sail and land in the US on January 1st 1941. He set this date aside when his General staff convinced him that a lot more troops were needed for that to happen. Also, he urged high command to speed up the invasion of Spain. Next to that, the Netherlands called in their allies to conquer Spain and only Italy answered that call. The Italians captured the north west of Spain.

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On September 21st Spain surrendered and 1st Army head out to the border with Portugal for the next step.

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The operation in Portugal was over quickly and the Portugese government fled to Africa refusing to surrender. The Dutch send a newly formed Marine Corps to Africa to gain some experience in making a landing in new build landing crafts. This would be the blueprint for the invasion of the USA. In May 1941, the Portugese surrendered.

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Europe in March 1941

Next chapter: Preparations
 
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I wonder how this will screw up the usual way things go in the game. Any plans to Dow other countries which Germany etc will then gobble up?
 

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I'm not familiar with the mechanics of HOI3 so please bear with me. I see that you have taken a lot of territory under your control. What benefits and drawbacks are there when you annex these nations? Are there such thing as infamy in HOI3? Is it possible for you to strike from the Pacific front against the Americans?
 

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I wonder how this will screw up the usual way things go in the game. Any plans to Dow other countries which Germany etc will then gobble up?

Well since I've been given control of the Axis (except for inviting nations into the faction), I basically run the show if I would like to. By the way, it the first time that this:

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happened to me as a player. So I have to get used to that to be honest. But to answer your question, probably yes and lets see how that will work out.

I'm not familiar with the mechanics of HOI3 so please bear with me. I see that you have taken a lot of territory under your control. What benefits and drawbacks are there when you annex these nations? Are there such thing as infamy in HOI3? Is it possible for you to strike from the Pacific front against the Americans?

I'm not familiar with the mechanics and I think there is no such thing as infamy in the game. I'm a pure player that enjoys this game and try to push myself to the limit. So it can go really really well...... or really really awfull. I've had games where I thought I was well prepared until the Germans painfully pointed out to me that I wasn't. Having said that, the benefits I notice is more manpower, which I need badly. I started out with about 1.4 (-ish) gain in manpower per month, now it is about 15 which makes a huge difference. Next to that I get more leadership, IC and access to more resources. Drawback is mainly uprisings which could cause problems and also forces me to leave troops not too far from the territories.

For my game it is not possible to attack the US from the East Indies, the distance is just too far and I haven't invested leadership into naval technologies. It's almost all spend on infantry, industry and land doctrine. I have to attack from the Atlantic side and there I have multiple options...... you'll see ;).
 

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Oh the irony of the Netherlands taking over Spain :p
I presume that Suriname has by now been turned into a fortress that puts Gibraltar and Singapore to shame, in order to facilitate an attack on the States?

There is no thing like infamy in HOI. However, if you occupy rather than annex land, you can set occupation laws, which allow you to either have low revoltrisk and a decent supply throughput (less partisans) or set harsh occupation laws and get more resources out of the land, with the price for that being higher revoltrisk. Revoltrisk can be suppressed with military units, especially garrisons and military police brigades are good at doing that. You will still get the occasional revolt, but nothing a cavalry division or two can't handle.

The other side of infamy in EU, the threat you pose to others, is also in the game. However, in HOI it's represented by the "threat" stat. The more nations you take over, the more units you build etc, the higher your threat. High threat allows other nations to attack you and drives them into opposite factions' arms. For example, if you do nothing about it as Germany, your string of invasions will eventually drive most of the world into the Allies. They won't go cointern due to ideological differences (communist china excepted of course)
 

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Chapter 6: Preparations

In the spring of 1941 the Dutch army started the preparations of the invasion of the USA. New troops were in training and most of them would only gain their first combat experience on the other side of the ocean with the way things were going at that moment. Prince Bernhard expressed his concern towards the General staff who agreed with him. In September 1941, 50% of the 2nd Army was combat ready and it was the Prince who ordered the attack on Vichy France on the 28th of September 1941 and send the 2nd Army in to gain experience. Vichy France had not much troops yet so the war was over on November 7th, 1941.

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Dutch walkover in Vichy France

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Vichy France surrenders

For the first time since the war started 1st Army was offered a rest while the fighting was still going on. 2nd Army, allthough not quite complete yet, proved having no trouble executing orders and adapting to use the right tactics eventhough the enemy was outnumbered and using obsolete weaponry.

Sometimes rebellions arose across the new acquired lands and to keep the citizens happy, the Prince appointed governors of the nationality of the specific country. Most of them were charismatic men who had great influence on the people. Simple instructions were: “keep the people as happy as possible” and due to using actually old Roman politics, life was not too bad under Dutch rule. Young men offered to join the Dutch army more and more, though there would always be a group that wanted to be free.

Preparations were going smoothly and late november plans were made to point January 1st 1942 as Invasion Day. By that time 2nd Army would be ready to fight, although troops were still in training. Troops were being shipped to Newfoundland and the Bahama’s and late December 1st Army would invade from the north while 2nd Army would assault from the south. Just when the troops were about to embark news reached the central government about a large scale uprising in Ireland.

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Field Marshal Seyffardt send 1e Marine Korps to end the uprising, Germany also send in some troops to share the responsibility of keeping things quiet in Ireland.

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On March 7th, 1942 all troops were finally back into place and the plan was to attack from the north first with a well experienced army. The only problem was the weather as rain and high winds crossed the north Atlantic Ocean. On March 20th the men of 1st Army finally embarked and would be on their way to their destination………..

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1st Army ready, waiting to embark on Newfoundland

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2nd Army ready, waiting to embark on the Bahama’s

Next chapter: Operation: Hunting for Eagles
 

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Oh the irony of the Netherlands taking over Spain :p

I know and I actually enjoyed being able to do that :p. For anyone that would like to take over Spain.... be aware of the cavalry!

I presume that Suriname has by now been turned into a fortress that puts Gibraltar and Singapore to shame, in order to facilitate an attack on the States?

Surinam is what it still is, which is ..... eeeh .... a lot of jungle. With last update you can see where I attack from and thing is, I like to take risks not turning anything into a fortress, just a small and effective army and strategic and tactical knowledge I have * cough cough *. We'll see what the army and I am worth in the USA, my actual real challenge :D.

There is no thing like infamy in HOI. However, if you occupy rather than annex land, you can set occupation laws, which allow you to either have low revoltrisk and a decent supply throughput (less partisans) or set harsh occupation laws and get more resources out of the land, with the price for that being higher revoltrisk. Revoltrisk can be suppressed with military units, especially garrisons and military police brigades are good at doing that. You will still get the occasional revolt, but nothing a cavalry division or two can't handle.

The other side of infamy in EU, the threat you pose to others, is also in the game. However, in HOI it's represented by the "threat" stat. The more nations you take over, the more units you build etc, the higher your threat. High threat allows other nations to attack you and drives them into opposite factions' arms. For example, if you do nothing about it as Germany, your string of invasions will eventually drive most of the world into the Allies. They won't go cointern due to ideological differences (communist china excepted of course)

Good to know how threat works, didn't know that so thanks :).
 

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I've been thinking. As I am going through this quite fast, why not make it a trilogy? This one is with the Axis, the next as Ally and the 3rd one as member of the Comintern (if it is even possible, never tried it). What do you think?
 

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Make a tetralogy and also play as a non alligned
 

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I think I need to edit something somewhere as the Netherlands have their independence guarenteed by the UK and Germany always attacks the Netherlands. If that is even possible :).
 

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I've been thinking. As I am going through this quite fast, why not make it a trilogy? This one is with the Axis, the next as Ally and the 3rd one as member of the Comintern (if it is even possible, never tried it). What do you think?

Do you mean a trilogy within the same AAR or three separate AARs? From what I read, it seems like you want to get a perspective of all three sides. So, are you playing as the same nation or different nations for each one? Sorry if I'm a bit slow on what your idea regarding a trilogy.

I think you could try out new things with this AAR before trying out something more ambitious. For example, you could maybe focus a single update on a major battle that includes maps, strategies used and the outcome. These would slow down the AAR but still ensuring content for viewers.
 

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Do you mean a trilogy within the same AAR or three separate AARs? From what I read, it seems like you want to get a perspective of all three sides. So, are you playing as the same nation or different nations for each one? Sorry if I'm a bit slow on what your idea regarding a trilogy.

The idea was within the same AAR getting the perspective of all three sides with the same nation. You're not slow mate :D, you're spot on!

I think you could try out new things with this AAR before trying out something more ambitious. For example, you could maybe focus a single update on a major battle that includes maps, strategies used and the outcome. These would slow down the AAR but still ensuring content for viewers.

Thanks for the suggestion, many thanks even because I am very unsure about the writing part. The playing part is no problem, but for me it is always hard to figure out what to put down. Hopefully my learning curve will go up now ;).

I've finished playing so it is hard to get more screenshots from the pas, but I will try to use your advise as much as possible :).
 

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Thanks for the suggestion, many thanks even because I am very unsure about the writing part. The playing part is no problem, but for me it is always hard to figure out what to put down. Hopefully my learning curve will go up now ;).

I've finished playing so it is hard to get more screenshots from the pas, but I will try to use your advise as much as possible :).

I understand what you mean regarding figuring out what to put down. I've had troubles with my earlier AARs as well and it took awhile, through trial and error, before I found a style I enjoy.

As for lack of screenshots, I don't always think you need any if you know how to use paint or any other drawing software. I'll give you some examples of how I wrote battles. I admit I'm not great but it might give you some ideas as to what you may want to try out. (First and Second) The First is a battle description that has no pictures while the Second is an attempt on paint (my drawing skills are below par but at least I get the message across :p).
 

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Many thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it! I'll have a good look how I will do this in my next AAR and perhaps include in this one, though I already finished playing so some things are really hard to reproduce. Nonetheless, you gave me something to work with :D.
 

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Chapter 7: Operation: Hunting for Eagles
March 1942 – January 1943

Boston, March 21st 1942, 2am – An alarm sounds throughout the base where two garrison divisions are stationed. 2 Minutes before the alarm a messenger handed over a note to the base commander. The note stated:


To commander Carter.

Large amount of Dutch transport ships spotted along the coast north of Boston.

Estimated amount of troops 5,000.

Need assistance fast.

Sincerely,
Watcher McNally


With the information provided, commander Carter send out only one of his divisions to the north and prepared the base with the other division in the hopes of holding on to the harbour long enough for reinforcements to arrive. Immediately he picked up the phone and called the Pentagon - A small part of the building was already finished and used right away – alarming US HQ about the attack and that reinforcements were needed.

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The Pentagon in 1941, on the left side of the picture you can see the part that was finished

The estimated amount provided by McNally proved to be horribly wrong. Twice the amount of soldiers disembarked from the transport ships and charged the badly trained division. The Americans expected not that many troops to come off the ships and fled after a very short battle. The Dutch forces informed Dutch US HQ about the succesfull landing and that they were ready to move towards Boston to secure the harbour. The transports turned around after the last men left the ships and moved back as fast as they could to Newfoundland to pick up the next corps that was waiting for transport to the mainland.

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Response from HQ and the US army was slow, too slow. They kept to themselves they were prepared and aparently intell from across the Atlantic was misguided. President Roosevelt was told the Dutch army was still too small to be effective on US soil and a landing was not to be expected. Chances of an invasion from the west by Japan would pose more of a threat, or at least that’s what the Presidents advisor said.

1st Army had no problem taking Boston and it’s harbour. Only a 2 day battle was what it took before the US garrison division fled the city and for the Dutch to take over. Soon after the city was taken the transports arrived to disembark another corps of infantry.

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By the time the first divisions arrived the Netherlands captured New York. For the first time since 1664, New York was in Dutch hands again. Prince Bernhard was thrilled with this moral victory for the Netherlands.

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In May a second front was opened in Florida. From the Bahama’s 2nd Army embarked on the new landing crafts and set sail for the southern state. After capturing Florida the advance was halted and the 1e Marine Korps embarked again on the landing crafts to open up a new front near New Orleans. Though this landing succeeded, the front would not move westwards anytime soon.

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In June the Dutch were fighting on 3 fronts and the US was defending on 3 fronts. The 3rd front did offer the other southern front the opportunity to break through the defenses and advance rapidly. While the plan was to isolate the US army in the south, reality was more divisions were coming in from the west ensuring that the initial plan could not succeed. It was halfway August when the southern fronts merged.

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In the meantime, the Fuhrer was looking towards the Netherlands with envy. While he was winning minor battles and conquering minor countries, the Netherlands – and their much smaller army – celebrated one success after another. On August 31st the Fuhrer probably made his biggest mistake. Although the Dutch were seen as the leaders of the Axis, the Germans were still the former leader. As such, the Fuhrer invited Romania into the Axis hoping they would help Germany in defeating the Soviet Union. Little did they know that the Soviets were waiting for such an opportunity along the Romanion-Soviet border. As an immediate response the Netherlands declared war on the Czech Republic and Poland. This way the Soviets would not benefit from pushing onwards through Romania into the rest of Europe. They would face a long strechted front alone while the Germans would have a few (minor) allies to assist them.

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The Dutch advance was going smoothly and they were aiming to end the war in the US in the spring of 1943 or the summer at the latest. The US army was forced to move back almost on a daily basis and at the end of November the north and south front merged.

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September 1942

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November 12th, 1942

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November 25th, 1942

Next Chapter: Operation: Hunting for Eagles - 1943-1944
 
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How on Earth have you made so much progress with such a small army?
 

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How on Earth have you made so much progress with such a small army?

Errr, that's actually difficult to answer to a certain extend. The first bit there was not much resistance untill September 1942, when the first units started moving in from the west (I guess). But even so, I try to keep an eye on every unit and sometimes it is better to give up a province or two to regroup and regain organisation and move forwards again. Other thing is my army, due to leadership, always has the newest equipment and the appropriate land doctrines. Basically mandatory for doing it. And last but not least, I like to take risks and as mentioned by someone once, with that comes great rewards ;). But wait for the next update and perhaps the last update, there are some more surprises.

:eek:hmy:

Whoa. That is...what Avindian said. That's akin to what I pulled with Sweden awhile back.

Link Skywalker, I want a link :D unless you did not write an AAR about it of course ;).