Dunkerque effect for Hearts of Iron 4

[Ruthlesssamuria]

I'd like to see where you can evacuate units off a beach but they lose their heavy equipment tanks and artillery and vehicles so losing most of their firepower and movement while retaining their troops but they are disorganized or disrupted. Same with surround units breaking out of a pocket. Also, the enemy is able to capture and use the captured equipment.

 

[ThatLittleLegen]

Similar to the capture equiptment thread, AFAWK it will not be included in the base game but will probably appear in paid DLC or patches. Also it is interesting whether the unit has to die for the tanks etc to be captured or if they still can be captured with the unit escaping but simply not equipt.

 

[jamesd]

I think this could be implemented through allowing divisions in coastal provinces to retreat onto friendly ships, but at the cost of all their equipment. Additionally, depending on the prevalence of ports on the map, this could apply to units voluntarily loading from beaches, but maybe a less severe version as they have more time.

Having said that, I don't really have a clear view of how naval transport will work now that the transport ships aren't units but rather sit in an off map pool. Do they just magically appear wherever they're needed, even if say one day they finish offloading a division in Egypt but the next they're needed to evacuate Dunkirk?

 

[Caesar15]

I played a Hoi3 game as Canada once. I can't tell you how many times I've had to reload a save in order to save my entire army in France..manpower is precious, equipment is not. (Unless you're China )

 

[shri]

It is not only equipment, if things are as they seem in the DEV Diaries, Trucks will be used for Supplies and this means you will lose a lot of trucks in case of encirclement, reducing your supply throughput and thus reducing the future movements of your armed forces. This will make the game HISTORICAL.

 

[PlacidDragon]

Having said that, I don't really have a clear view of how naval transport will work now that the transport ships aren't units but rather sit in an off map pool. Do they just magically appear wherever they're needed, even if say one day they finish offloading a division in Egypt but the next they're needed to evacuate Dunkirk?

Im going to guess yes, unless Paradox has added "travel time" to them (IE, that they actually have to move back the same way they came to go back into the pool, with all the hazards to anti shipping and actual travel time that would take). Doesn't seem likely though, if they did it that way, they might as well have had them as actual units, and not being abstracted

 

[AlfredMV]

I believe the ships are in a pool and when needed "spawn" at the closest port possible, then travel to and from their destination, before returning to the nearest port.