The Cillis find themselves at the corner of different worlds, making a place of their own out of the roots of others. Newly made Princes of of the Holy Roman Empire, one of the most influential Baronial clans of the Kingdom of Hungary, governors of Croatian territories, seekers of the ancient glory of Carantania - the Cillis are at once German, Hungarian and Slovenian, or would be if such catagorical definitions existed at this point in history. They find themselves with estates and vassals inside the Kingdoms, Duchies and Counties of others, with allies and relatives in all corners of Europe, and yet without the economic or military clout that comes with having lordship over a single coherent realm. Their jumbled, incongruous and sometimes inconsistent spread is both a strength and a weakness, but their political might is growing...
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Nation: Duchy of Carinthia
Player: cccino
Head of State: Ulrich II von Cilli, Imperial Prince, Sovereign of Bosnia, Baron of Hungary, Lord of the Slovenes.
Proper Title: Ulrich II, Duke of Carinthia, Margrave of Carniola and the Windish March, Princely Count of Celje, Ortenburg, and Sternberg, Ban of Croatia and Slavonia, Lord of the Kingdom of Bosnia, Lord of the Slovenes, Lord of the Marches of Petovia and Savinia.
(Ulrich der Zwiete, Herzog zu Kärnten, Markgraf zu Krain und zu Windischen, gefürsteter Graf von Cilli, Ortenburg und Sternberg, Vizekönig von Ungarn zu Croatien und Slavonien, Herr Prinz zu Bosnien, Herr auf der Windische, Herr zu Pettovien Mark und Savinien Mark)
Capital: Klagenfurt
Religion: Catholic
Ruling Culture: German
Popular Culture: Slavonic
Stats: 1/0/3/4/1
Provinces: 1
Major Ports: none.
Lands Owned: Steiermark
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Preface
Facts in Brief
TITULAR HOLDINGSFacts in Brief
Map
Regions
Ranks and Titles
Claims
HISTORY OF HOUSE VON CILLIRegions
Ranks and Titles
Claims
Brief History
Anna
Barbara
Heinrich
History Since 1420
THE PLAYERSAnna
Barbara
Heinrich
History Since 1420
Von Cilli Family Tree
House von Cilli
House von Goerz
The Ugnads
Others
MILITARYHouse von Cilli
House von Goerz
The Ugnads
Others
Ensigns
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CITIES AND CASTLESBlah
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Altenburg
Celje
Hörberg
Klagenfurt
Lublana
Montpreis
Neudeck
Sonnegg
Stein
Weissenfels
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HISTORY OF CARANTANIACelje
Hörberg
Klagenfurt
Lublana
Montpreis
Neudeck
Sonnegg
Stein
Weissenfels
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The Grand Duchy
First Dynasty
Second Dynasty
Habsburgs
CARANTANIAFirst Dynasty
Second Dynasty
Habsburgs
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DIPLOMACYBlah
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Foreign Diplomats
Embassies Abroad
Allies
Trade Partners
Pacts of Non-Aggression
Rights of Passage
Vassals
Selected Attitudes
TREATIESEmbassies Abroad
Allies
Trade Partners
Pacts of Non-Aggression
Rights of Passage
Vassals
Selected Attitudes
Cessation of Inner Austria
Danube Syndicate Charter
Danube Syndicate Charter
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Carantanian Panther..........Duchy of Carinthia..............March of Carniola...............March of Slovenia...............Arms of Dalmatia
over the Arms of Cilli.................................................................................................(Windischmark)........................(Croatia).......
Descriptions by Region
Carantania: blah blah blah.
Carinthia: blah blah blah.
Carniola: blah blah blah.
Croatia: blah blah blah.
Slavonia: blah blah blah.
Styria: blah blah blah.
A History of the Cillis' Ranks and Titles
Grafen von Cilli: The Barons of Sonnegg (-Heunburg), Counts under Carantanian law through female succession of the Heunburg line, were known as Free Lords in the Empire. In 1341 they were recognised by Emperor Ludwig IV as Imperial Counts and granted the appelation "von Cilli".
Grafen von Ortenburg und Sternberg: Through marriage they inherited the estates and titles of the von Ortenburg, who themselves had inherited the von Sterberg.
Gefürsteter Grafen: In the early 1400s, Hermann II, close friend of the Emperor Sigismund and who had saved the Emperor's life at Nicopolis was promised to be made a Gefürsteter Count, a Prince of the Empire. At this time the Habsburgs still considered the Cillis their vassals and the threat of war without the support of the Emperor - who had died at a most inconvenient time - suppressed the promotion. Hermann's descendants fought the Habsburgs at every turn and with the final demise of the Austrian Dukes in their wars against the very Empire itself the Cillis were free to persue Hermann's legacy.
In 1449 the Emperor Joachim of the Greif recognised the Cillis' claim of Sigismund's intent and formally granted Friedrich II von Cilli and his descendants the rank of Princes of the Empire. Their estates and holdings now constituted a sovereign state.
Herzog von Kärnten, Markgraf von Krain : Simultaneously, the King of Bohemia, who had in the Imperial Wars of the 30's and 40's gained the Habsburgs' Ducal titles handed over the Duchy of Carinthia and the March of Carniola to Friedrich II's son Ulrich. Reports differ as to whether or not the titles were given freely or stripped by the Emperor Joachim, with whom King Ladislav had fallen out of favour.
Bans of Croatia, Dalmatia, Slavonia:Hermann II von Cilli was appointed by the King of Hungary as Ban or Governor of Croatia and Dalmatia until his death. His son Friedrich and grandson Ulrich were appointed Bans of Slavonia in later years. As King of Bohemia and Hungary, Ladislav reconfirmed Friedrich II's and Ulrich II's royal appointment as joint Bans of Croatia and Slavonia. Ulrich is related to the Frangepans, traditional viceroys of Croatia.
Claims and Non-Recognised Titles
Carantania: Ulrich has taken the Carantanian Panther, the ancient coat of arms of the original dynasty of the Grand Duchy of Carantania, as his personal emblem. Until around 1270, the black "panther" on white once flew at the head of the Carinthian Duke's army. After 1335, Carantanian heraldry was superceded by Habsburg symbolism. Naturally, Cilli (while the Grand Duchy no longer exists) has reverted to the use of the black and white conventions for Carinthian military commands.
Sovereign of Bosnia: As the sole legitimate descendant of Stephen II Kotromanic, Ulrich II von Cilli can claim to be the rightful Despot of Bosnia, particularly when the current, heirless and aged "King" of Bosnia - descended from an illegitimate son of a Kotromanic who was not only known to be a bastard himself, but whose very blood-connection to the Kotromanic house is questionable - dies.
Sovereign of Serbia: Should the present Serbian dynasty die out, Hermann IV von Cilli would be in line for the Serbian throne through his mother Katalin Brankovic.
Margrave of Slovenia: The March of Slovenia, or Windischmark, was gained by the Habsburgs from the von Görz as payment of debt, and was subsequently captured by Cilli. The Habsburgs considered absorbing it into the March of Carniola in the 1440s, and Cilli was never explicitly granted the title. Nevertheless, Ulrich claims it as a title distinct from Carniola, although it is administered from Lublana.
Palatine of Carantania: An archaic position, still existant in the ailing von Görz line, is unlikely to be continued past that house's demise, but given their debts to and the ownership of many of their former estates by the Cillis, it is not unlikely that through actively taken steps of purchase or simply through forfeit, Ulrich would inherit the title; although it would almost certainly be unrecognised formally.
Windischer Herr: Ulrich von Cilli, as Duke of Carinthia and Margrave of Slovenia, is known by the people by the traditional title of the Slovenian Lord. Carantanians do not need to remove their headgear in the presence of the Duke. Similarly, the Windischer Herr is permitted by law to remain wearing the Slovenian Hat before the Emperor.
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Brief History
In 1341, the first Count of Celje (Cilli, in German records) appeared, he was Frederic I († 1360). His father was Ulric (II), a nobleman of Zovnek (Saneck) a castle situated in the Savinja Valley, West of Celje. The Zovnek nobles derived from Gebhard I, mentioned ca. 1130 - 1173, a descendant of the ancient Margraves of the Savinja (Sann) March. His mother was Catherine, Countess of Vovbre (Heunburg) from Eastern Carinthia. She was the last and therefore the heiress of her family. From her derived the title of "Counts".
Count Frederic I was married to Ann of Walsee. Out of this matrimony derived Ulric I († 1368), Herman I († 1385), further Catherine, married with Albert of Goerz in first, and with Hans Waldburg in second law; further Anna († 1354) married with Otto of Ortenburg.
Count Ulric I was married to Adelheid of Ortenburg, and they had a son called William († 1392). He married Anna, a Polish Princess, daughter of King Casimir, the last member of the royal family of Piasts. Their daughter Anna († 1416) married Vladislav Jagiello, another Polish King, who was also the Grand Duke of Lithuania.
Count Herman I married in 1361 the daughter of Stephen II Kotromanic, the Ban (sovereign) of Bosnia. Their children were Hans († 1372) and Herman II († 1435). The last was the most important representative of the Celje stock. His consort was Countess Anna of Schaunburg (in Upper Austria). Their children were Ludovic († 1417), Elisabeth († 1400), married to Henry of Goerz; Frederic II († 1454), married to Elisabeth of Frangipani in first, and with Veronica of Desenice in second law († 1425); further Anna († 1465), married with Nicola II Gorjanski; Herman III († 1426), married with Elisabeth, Countess of Abensberg (Upper Austria) in first, and with Beatrix, daughter of the Bavarian duke Ernst, in second law. Another daughter of Herman II, Barbara of Celje († 1451) pertains to the most important historical personalities in Slovenian history. She was married to Sigmund of Luxemburg, King of Hungary (later of Germany, of Bohemia, of Italy) and Emperor. Herman II' natural son was Herman († 1421), Bishop of Freising (1412) and then of Trento.
Count Frederic II continued the lineage. His children were Ulric II, Frederic III, and his natural son Hans. Ulric II married Catherine, daughter of Georg Brankovic, the despot of Serbia.
In the female line, the Counts of Celje descend from the Counts of Vovbre (Heunburg), whose first ancestor was Gero I (mentioned between 1050 and 1072). He was the consort of St. Emma's daughter, whose name has not been mentioned in the records. The succession in the female line, in this case the Countess Catherine of Vovbre and her son Count Frederic I of Celje, furnishes clear evidence of the Carantanian law called for in the charter institutio Sclavenica.
The Counts of Celje threatened seriously the supremacy of the Habsburgs in Inner Austria (Carantanian lands).
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