Dual claw (Kills-in-Shadow talent)

[Sorenzo]

Hey

Dual Claw. I think this talent is WAD, but it's text is wrong.

It is supposed to grant extra attacks - which it does when KIS is unarmed and under 70% HP, but not when she has a weapon.

But the text specifically indicates that this talent works with her *weapon* attacks, and that *all weapons* can be used - contrasted with her other unarmed talents, and contrasted with her weapon-specific talents.

The reason I think it is WAD is because the talent is in the unarmed-focused tree, and because it'd be kinda overpowered if you could get extra attacks with your two-handers.

But the word "Unarmed" needs to appear twice in the talent description.

I realize this is low-priority stuff, and it's not the only text error in the game, and I hope they're working on more important issues, but I wanted to complain and moan about it.

 

[Sorenzo]

I should probably update this in light of the fact that KIS can't properly attack in the first place. In AI control, she likes staring down her enemies while they freely chop her top bits.
And I can no longer replicate the double attack consistently (yes, even with low health).

I highly recommend you guys rewrite the AI's handling of unarmed characters (I've read people trying other unarmed characters with similar issues).

Ideally I'd like for KIS to be able to carry a weapon to use her weapon-focused abilities, even if you're otherwise encouraging her to use unarmed. But it looks like she's totally incapable of using unarmed unless you micromanage her, and even then I'm not sure it's working.

 

[Obsidian_David]

Hello @Sorenzo

I am not having this issue with Kills-in-Shadow. She is capable of multi-striking when wielding a 1 or 2 handed weapon and below 70% health.

Could you upload a save where you have this occurring so I can investigate it further? You can usually find saves in:
C:\Users\<Your User Name>\Saved Games\Tyranny

Thank you for your help!
David

EDIT: Added words... since I just pressed send after saying hello... that was silly.

 

[pomegranata]

I'm having similar issues. Sometimes it's resolved when I switch weapons, but not always. Dual Claw is functional with unarmed and 1h weapons, but with a Bronze Brotherhood War Mace equipped on Kills-in-Shadow, she sometimes double attacks, sometimes doesn't, and sometimes performs the second attack animation but doesn't actually register an attack in the combat log. An uploaded save is attached.

It may be worth mentioning that I only started having these issues after I taught Kills-in-Shadow the Berserker Stance talent. It could just be a coincidence, but I didn't have any trouble with Dual Claw working with 2h weapons before that.