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JAP MTN: IIRC we boosted the MTN percentage in the AI files above the RW percentage to improve JAP performance when it was lagging. My goto OOB site is down right now. But the percentage seems too high. What should replace MTN is RES. JAP really is borderline for MAR as it stands. The units they fielded were simply too small.

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Denniss,

When Now: Could you explain why this needs to be done? I really don't feel like editing all of these files unless there is an actual improvement to the game experience. I've got a backlog of other projects waiting for time.

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The reference to Naval construction and 8171 was something I'm pretty sure I submitted already. So not sure how this is still showing in the build? I haven't installed the latest version as I have a game in progress. could someone else confirm this is in the current file set? thanks!

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Loving the new provinces. Japan is getting bogged down in China still and its late '41 - which is a change for me. Quick note: after Vichy fires, Sedan and Verdun are not included and are sitll considered Free French provinces.

Are you playing this with the 0.70.2. installer or have you installed Armd´s files directly over an older build? I have not seen a problem with Sedan and Verdun with the full install (but maybe I was not looking closely enough and/or the German AI conquered them quickly).
 

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Are you playing this with the 0.70.2. installer or have you installed Armd´s files directly over an older build? I have not seen a problem with Sedan and Verdun with the full install (but maybe I was not looking closely enough and/or the German AI conquered them quickly).
I confirm that event 2801, which transfers FRA provinces to GER, lacks entries for Sedan (224) and Verdun (223).
 
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My bad. I totally missed that file including event 2801. I will send a fix, if need be.

JAP should have no MTN units. The mountain type artillery was used because it was easier for the infantry to break it down into manageable pieces to move it up more quickly in tactical situations.

JAP MAR. As long as it progresses no farther than Naval Infantry, that would be OK. Japan did train Army units to participate in landings with the Naval battalions as well. They just never developed improved landings and logistics doctrines as the interservice rivalry between the Army and the Navy was too wide to bridge.
 
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Denniss,

When Now: Could you explain why this needs to be done? I really don't feel like editing all of these files unless there is an actual improvement to the game experience. I've got a backlog of other projects waiting for time.

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These commands are leftovers from vanilla Hoi2/DD/Arma, superfluous and waste of file space in AoD. I'm not sure they were required in Armageddon.

Duplicate IDs
ID: TECH_APP_ARMOR_47_DESC
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\armor_tech.txt (6468, 2)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\armor_tech.txt (2455, 2)

ID: TECH_CMP_INFANTRY_53_5_NAME
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\infantry_tech.txt (5688, 26)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\infantry_tech.txt (5624, 26)

ID: TECH_CMP_ND_80_5_NAME
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\naval_doctrines_tech.txt (4267, 3)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\naval_doctrines_tech.txt (4255, 3)

ID: TECH_APP_SW_49_DESC
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\secret_weapons_tech.txt (1099, 2)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\secret_weapons_tech.txt (1051, 2)
 

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MTN: This is a subjective issue. While the units may not be at a level found in other major nations (FRA/GER/ITA) they at least have some of the proper TO&E. We've chosen to model some of the CHI and most of the CHC units as MTN as well. Most of these units also would not measure up either. In all of these cases this also reflects troops that are somewhat better than RES in quality but without the TO&E to be INF. This is not perfect. But it is better than the alternatives IMO. I think the big issue here is the number of MTN that the AI is building. Most of the builds should probably be RES.

MAR: the typical TO&E of a JAP unit is too strong to model as MAR. The Naval Infantry side of MAR is very weak for any use other than Amphibious Assault.

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Hi,

Corrected the duplicate entries.

WRT to file size I just don't see this as an issue. The largest Tech file is under 500KB. All of those entries add up to almost nothing. I just don't see why I should spend my time reformating code that works fine.

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They can be removed fully automatically. I am in favour of eliminating semantically empty entries, as it promotes readability.
... There is no work done on these files in the current version, is there? I will bundle them up when I get home then.
 

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I take it that the current work mainly involves reading what is discussed here in the forum and integrating it.

If the material is not overwhelming, I usually do file compares on files submitted by two contributors.

But reading Dec´s statement there is no danger that he is going to work those files.
 

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I'm going on vacation for next week so have very limited time for awhile. If you want to work those Tech files go ahead. But you'll also need to correct the duplicate entries as well. That is straight forward.

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Duplicate IDs
ID: TECH_APP_ARMOR_47_DESC
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\armor_tech.txt (6468, 2)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\armor_tech.txt (2455, 2)

ID: TECH_CMP_INFANTRY_53_5_NAME
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\infantry_tech.txt (5688, 26)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\infantry_tech.txt (5624, 26)

ID: TECH_CMP_ND_80_5_NAME
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\naval_doctrines_tech.txt (4267, 3)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\naval_doctrines_tech.txt (4255, 3)

ID: TECH_APP_SW_49_DESC
[1]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\secret_weapons_tech.txt (1099, 2)
[2]: E:\_Downloads\_AoD\AoD Core 060\Core_0702\mod-CORE2\db\tech\secret_weapons_tech.txt (1051, 2)
These duplicates are not automatically bugs.
Those reference label strings, and why should two entries not be allowed to share one string.

Case in point, the first and last reports are false-positives insofar that the referenced strings are identical (and, incidentally, empty).
Second and third ones are legit.
I'm going on vacation for next week so have very limited time for awhile. If you want to work those Tech files go ahead. But you'll also need to correct the duplicate entries as well.
Fixed all four duplicates listed in the quoted post. Removed all instances of "when = now".
View attachment CORE2_0.70.2_TechFixesAndCleanUp.zip
 

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I am currently trying to get an overview on what I have for integration.

Mainly four filesets from Zsar1:
* Dynamic trade
* Multiplayer fixes
* World names
* Tech fixes and cleanup

I have received one e-Mail vom Hagar containing several gfx, mainly province pics (including the new provinces from Armd´s map) and TT Images

I have reserved the following tasks for myself:
* Modifying JAP build AI
* Modifying Operation ZET and Burma Road

I will need to correct the Vichy France events for the two new provinces myself.

Did I miss anything?