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I definitely do not have the patience to deal with this like you do, Uriah. Hopefully the SS will allow you to break Leningrad and then move on to Moscow. It is too bad you can't get better numbers on surrenders and overruns, they could give you a better picture on how you stand.
 

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Now would be a good time to release Baltic states as puppets, to get more men fighting against the Red Army. :)

Not that good an idea. They'll only raise pure INFxINFxINF divisions. They start with the German current tech levels, but they'll not research anything much plus they'll be helpless against anything with armored or support brigades.
 

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Not that good an idea. They'll only raise pure INFxINFxINF divisions. They start with the German current tech levels, but they'll not research anything much plus they'll be helpless against anything with armored or support brigades.
If Uriah builds only pure support brigades from this time forward and sends them to shadow the Baltic units in hopes they will fight the same battles, might that still make it worthwhile?
 

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If Uriah builds only pure support brigades from this time forward and sends them to shadow the Baltic units in hopes they will fight the same battles, might that still make it worthwhile?
Pure support brigades have a width of 0, and will not fight on the front lines. Units must have a width >0 to actually shoot in land combat - pure HQs stay in the reserve and NEVER join the front lines, even if participating in combat.
 

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Pure support brigades have a width of 0, and will not fight on the front lines. Units must have a width >0 to actually shoot in land combat - pure HQs stay in the reserve and NEVER join the front lines, even if participating in combat.
I may have used the wrong term. What I meant to ask is that if Uriah built (either only or in part) Anti-Tank, SP artillery, Tank Destroyer etc. brigades in his production queue and tried to camp them in the same places with the Baltic units which would be all infantry-only, would that work in his favor? Would the combined arms bonus, or whatever Black Ice uses that is similar, come into play or would the Baltic units usually fight separately from the German units, negating any combined force efficiencies which one might hope for if one were in Uriah's position?
 

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I may have used the wrong term. What I meant to ask is that if Uriah built (either only or in part) Anti-Tank, SP artillery, Tank Destroyer etc. brigades in his production queue and tried to camp them in the same places with the Baltic units which would be all infantry-only, would that work in his favor? Would the combined arms bonus, or whatever Black Ice uses that is similar, come into play or would the Baltic units usually fight separately from the German units, negating any combined force efficiencies which one might hope for if one were in Uriah's position?

No, that wouldn't work. These units - if they would even have the frontage to fight - would be treated as just another division. So the puppet-units would get pummeled because of lack of support, while the German support units would get pummeled because of a lack of infantry in the unit.

Beyond that, I don't think you can release puppets in places you merely control. You need to own the land to release a puppet. The only exception being event-puppets like Croatia or China-Nanjing.
 

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I remember that ICE had an event chain where you could create puppets after BP. So I don't think it would be possible during the war.
 

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Thanks George Parr for answering my question. Another idea down. It is not looking good for the Doppleganger. Maybe one of these times one of us will think of a silver bullet for him.
 

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Doppelgänger: the Untold Story of the Third Reich


The start of the second year of Barbarossa. The first year has been difficult to say the least. It started with such hope, an expectation that our finely tuned and magnificently trained Wehrmacht would crush the Red Army as it had crushed the Poles and the French. It has ended in a bitter struggle against a determined and far more numerous enemy who shows no sign of weakening.

Can we change that situation, to again seize the initiative and start to roll up the Red Army?

As a first step, our researchers delivered some hope. Improvements in Brigade and Divisional headquarters organisation will lead to better tactical results and reduced time between attacks. Combined arms studies have developed new methods for armour co-operation, our latest officer recruitment plan will reduce the number of officers required. We started research into advanced artillery barrels and ammunition, better radar technology, and self sealing tanks for our aircraft. Several project teams were disbanded: we need more officers to replace the horrifying losses in the east.

On a more practical note, Liebstandarte SS “Adolf Hitler” has been upgraded (at vast expense) to a panzer division. It has been withdrawn from France and is already on its way east.

Defeats in Ilyushino and Malkowicze were predictable but still depressing. I was actually not too upset with Malkowicze: for von Boroweitz to inflict heavy losses on the swamp defenders was a good performance. But Höhne’s brief foray into Ilyushino was very bad for morale, though to be fair if he had not had to pull out he may have been able to destroy the enemy, despite their huge numbers. On the bright side, General Karl defeated the mechanised unit holding Gatcina, though it cost him dearly. Every kilometre closer to Leningrad is paid for with blood, but it is a price I am willing to pay.

I didn’t have a problem with Friessner’s attack into Krychaw, his opposition amounting to less than 3,000 NKVD. Schulz’s move back into Malkowicze however was close to driving me to distraction. What makes him think his motorised division will do any better than before? Moskalenko still has 45,000 men in the fens and marshes. I am in two minds about Auer taking two panzer divisions into Welykyj Tokmak. He is outnumbered two to one, but most of the enemy are cavalry and many are close to exhaustion. It is a gamble, but one that may pay off.

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Steel versus horseflesh: the battle of Welykyj Tokmak​

Some good returns on investment are what we need, as results for Wednesday were, even to the most positive interpretation, mixed. A good win in Hlusk, a decent win in Malyn and a fairly brutal defeat in Demidov. The Soviet counter-attacks look promising from our point of view. In neither Makariv nor Liezna has Stavka launched one of its feared mass assaults, and both Blümm and Strauss appear safe for now. Nevertheless, I will keep my thumbs pressed for them both.

Another massive defeat for the Romanians in Targu Fromos was the last report from the east, but there was still plenty of action in France. A small SS Police unit (less than 2,000 men) came under attack in Beauvais, while “Wotan” moved on the defenders of Tours and General Lucht deployed two infantry divisions against the severely damaged 2e Division Légère in Abbeville. (Both Beauvais and Abbeville were over quickly, with the French retreating in the former and surrendering in the latter).

A lot of events took place overnight, but international and local. A cable from Tokyo informed us that a combined IJA/IJN operation had captured Midway Island, while Mexico declared war on the Reich. (Apparently one of our submarines inadvertently sank a Mexican ship, the “Potero de Llano”. The commander, Reinhard Suhren, thought the flag painted on the side was Italian, and as no Italian tankers were in the area, proceeded to fire his torpedoes. He was unaware that only ships of the Mexican navy were permitted to display the eagle in the centre of the flag.)

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The “Potero de Llano” burns fiercely after being torpedoed​

Better news came from our ally, Italy. A whole army (the 8th) has been provided for us in the east. The troops are currently of low quality and lack anti-tank weaponry, but all additional men are welcome. Which is why the arrival of the “Azul” division from Spain has been greeted with enthusiasm. The Italians have been ordered to Rusnitsa, where I hope we can rearrange them to cover some of their inadequacies. Their lack of notable leaders is a real problem. The Spanish are more combat ready and are destined for Kiwerce. The other order that issued early was an addition to the objectives of the Leningrad Armee: Leningrad itself is now on the list.

The total of eight divisions and four smaller units will make up for some of our losses. These continue to climb, with a small loss in Staraya Toropa and a badly botched push into Ilyushino. Golynki was a disappointment, as we thought Grase had a fair chance of winning. Close to 9,000 men for very little.

The poor results had no impact on the Wehrmacht which was almost as enthusiastic on 1 July 1942 as it had been a year before. Fighting broke out in Berezan, Boryspil, Borodjanka and Nova Odesa. All are winnable and hopes are high. On the other side of the ledger, Semenovskiy’s attack on Hlusk is, according to General Krüger, doomed to failure.

The enthusiasm continued after a win in Krychaw and a loss in Liezna, the two battles both over in just over a day. Von Obstfelder used the weak 16th divize on the even weaker 50th Motor Machine-gun Brigade in Berezanka. Hoepner’s tanks charged into Demidov and Nehring’s 2.PzD took on the job of uprooting 136,000 Russians from Nelidovo.

I thought that was an acceptable start to the month. Although our losses were still far too high, the battles started appeared promising and the Luftwaffe was performing well. The first battle of the 3rd July (Druzhnaya Gorka) also looked as though it would end well, and the Soviet response was limited to a tank attack on Großdeutschland Division in Babruysk. They may be in a position to do more attacks soon, as von Kleist’s defeat in Rahachow would free up nearly 125,000 men. That defeat was not alone, as once again our soldiers trudged out of Malkowicze, leaving the swamps in Soviet control. Blümm’s victory over the NKVD in Makariv made up for that at least.

Not that the NKVD were dismayed. To Blümm’s amazement, he came under attack by the NKVD again, even though he had three divisions in Makariv. Nearly as hard to understand was the attack on Fastiv: 10,000 men against Pfeffer’s 45,000. All I can say is that I hope the Soviet commanders keep up this squandering of their men’s lives.

In France the Wehrmacht is on the move again, led by Hoppe’s attack on Ruffec. That should not take long, as 218.ID is twice the size of 12e Division d’Infanterie. Coutras should not be much harder, even though Mayer-Buerdorff’s opponent has armour. (I was right about Ruffec: it was over during the night).

Another battle for Krychaw began, but it should not be any harder than the first, though Stavka has added a mechanised brigade. Böttcher faces an armoured assault in Zaplyuse, but otherwise all was calm. Two battles ended towards the end of Friday, both wins for the Wehrmacht but each costing us more dead and missing than it did the enemy. Still, we did take Kotovsk and Borodjanka, and that means we are slowly pushing the Red Army back.

Saturday the Luftwaffe maintained its clear superiority, not only in support of our attacks but also in preventing the VVS from being anything more than an irritant. Over Orsha, Kitzinger and Felmy virtually annihilated a Soviet air formation that attempted to reach the front line. There was a delivery of new interceptors, but these were destined for France, to boost the Reichsluftverteidigung. Losses in aircraft have been heavy, and I have convinced Reichsmarschall Göring that we should increase all jagdfliegerkorps in the west from 400 to 500 planes.

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The VVS is outclassed and outnumbered: the eastern skies are ours​

During the night it had been the Red Army’s turn to take the initiative, all three attacks being by Soviet forces. Two were in the far north, on Gatcina and Petrodvorets, the other far to the southeast in Piatykhatky. Perhaps that indicates Stavka’s priorities. I hope it indicates the condition of the Red Army: none of the attacks comprised more than one division. The result of the battle of Welykyj Tokmak would make all the battles a little harder for the enemy: the scale of the defeat has rattled the entire organisation. Auer’s panzers showed no mercy on enemy who outnumbered them three to one. With a casualty ratio of nearly thirty to one in our favour, it would go a long way to offsetting the imbalance of the past days.

There were only two battles on Saturday, though a lot of smaller engagements. Golynki is not a likely victory for us, and Kyiv is a predetermined defeat. That was not too encouraging, but the mere fact that six battles ended is a positive. Winning four of them was even better, and while we did lose more than the Russians, it was not too many. Makariv saw the NKVD thrashed again, but Cornesti was a nightmare for the Luftlande Division, unable to overcome the better armed Russians. 5th Tankovaya was no match for 19.PzD in Kamianka but 2.PzD could not match the firepower that Batiuna could call on: by the end of that battle the Red Army had committed nearly 175,000 men against our solitary panzer division. Berezenka was a little disappointing, as Obstfelder ran into some heavy fire before he could push the machine-gunners out. Finally Fastiv: a close call in the end as Pfeffer found his men collapsing from fatigue, but our soldiers were just able to see off the huge force of remnants. (What possessed Pfeffer to chase them back into Kyiv nobody knows).

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Firing from a protected position, the Maxim is deadly against infantry when operated by committed solders​

Good news on Tuesday, as the wealth of experience we have acquired in air battles finally pays off. Our veteran air force has led to a boost in both organisation and the rate we regain it, as well as an increase in both the number of leaders identified and the number destined for the officer corps. Add to that new radar stations at Schweinfurt, Saarbrücken and Leipzig, a new Messerschmitt geschwader and a new U-boat flotte and the day was off to a good start. There were no new orders placed, as repair and reinforcement is a huge drain on the economy.

Von Prittwitz und Gaffron had to fight again to demonstrate that the Soviets were no longer welcome in Borodjanka. Even with two infantry divisions he will find the massive 3rd Guards Motorised Division a challenge. He will probably find it easier than Warlimont’s expedition into Lelchtsy. I have a real aversion to these adventures into the Soviet swamps.

No less than six battles ended overnight, but once again our casualties were far too high, even though we won half the battles. Kyiv, Hlusk and Golynki were all defeats, and though we won Druzhnaya Gorka it was with more than 5,000 dead. Only Gatcina and Petrodvorets could be celebrated as victories. Still, as our more strategic colleagues pointed out, all the success was in the north, near Leningrad. That was the most important thing. Some of the blame for the losses could be planted at the feet of the anonymous order that sent half the Rostov Armee west at a critical moment. That allowed the Red Army a breathing space when it was reeling from our offensive. Could we have a communist infiltrator in the higher echelons of the Heer?

The morning was deadly quiet, the silence only broken by the occasional delivery of Luftwaffe bombing estimates. Not until 1PM was there word of progress on the ground, and the news that Hoernlein and the “Großdeutschland” ID had been mauled in Babruysk could have waited.

The afternoon, however, we did show some aggression though I wish Weyer had shown some restraint (sense?) and not attacked two mechanised brigades in Tosno. One jäger division is not enough for that task. The two Soviet attacks (Liezna and Dubrouna) were just as incomprehensible, so maybe our losses in Tosno will be matched by their’s. The one attack in France was far better planned. 218.ID will make short work of the Maginot Line headquarters in Ruffec. For a dismal day, the last bit of news was particularly welcome: 3rd Guards were on the run from Borodjanka, leaving thousands of their comrades behind.

Day 6 of the second year of Barbarossa was one of the most hectic and bloody days of the war. 10 battles began, as well as 6 smaller clashes. 5 battles were completed, including the most expensive victory the Wehrmacht has ever had to endure. 18 Luftwaffe missions and 5 VVS missions. 24 hours packed with activity.

Just after midnight Böttcher admitted defeat in Zaplyuse, though he and 73.ID were not disgraced, putting up a good fight. Hopefully Auer’s midnight attack on Zaporizhzhaya will balance that: his two panzer divisions backed by a motorised division make a potent strike force that Mishulin will be hard pressed to resist.

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Auer strikes again, but this time the terrain and his opponents are a bit tougher​

Yet another geschwader of interceptors headed east, further strengthening the defence of the Reich’s major production centres. 303.ID was announced ready for action, and is one its way east as I write this in my diary. The factory space freed up has been set aside for equipment for another mechanised division. It will be a long time until it is ready, but we must accept the fact that it is unlikely we will completely destroy the Soviet Union this year.

It looks as though the Vichy government might fall by the end of the month, however, or at least that all French forces on mainland Europe might be eliminated. Ruffec is now ours, and von Hadeln is again fighting in Marmande, this time using two infantry divisions.

Apart from Haenicke’s hopeless attack on the huge force in Nelidovo, all early fighting was the result of Soviet troops’ attempts to regain captured provinces. Drizhnaya Gorka, Kotovsk and Parycy are all multiple formation assaults on single units and all look as though they will succeed. That coincided with Rittau’s defeat in Berezan, a five day battle that had started well but deteriorated quickly. That was nothing, however, to the news of our victory in Kremenchuk. After a fortnight, we are across the Dniepr, but at such cost! More than 22,000 soldiers lost as we sent wave after wave of men in their fragile storm boats into the maelstrom of bullets and blasts that the river had become. It is a tribute to the courage of our men that they overcame the more than 100,000 defenders who held the opposite bank, but we cannot afford to pay this price. The local commanders had better not lose this province for which we paid so much.

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A shattered and burning bridge in the background, storm boats head towards the Russian held shore. Most do not make it.​

Then the counter-attacks. Von Obstfelder found the Red Army had not yet ceded possession of Berezenka and was prepared to fight again, and von Vaerst was just as prepared to dispute the ownership of Berezan: and he had two panzer divisions to back him up. We recaptured the air base at Novo Odesa, but again losses were far higher than those of the defenders. (It was not as bad as at first glance: the battle had begun as a Hungarian operation and 12.ID had joined to deliver the coup de grace.) To end the day, twin panzer attacks on Ivankov and Akciabrski hint at a rejuvenation of both Panzerarmee Hoth and von Manstein.

We will need something like that: the week’s death toll has risen above 100,000 again, while Soviet losses are far lower. Although we are advancing, we are bleeding with every step. The only bright spot was the performance of the Luftwaffe: it continues to dominate and provide the support the Heer so badly needs.


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Finalised Battles for Barbarossa Days 366 to 362 (July 1 to 6, 1942)


Location (Armee)
Result
German losses (engaged)
Soviet losses (engaged)
Malkowicze (PAH)
Defeat
5,428 (41,770)
3,352 (47,956)
Ilyushino (MA)
Defeat
3,678 (23,992)
402 (132,030)
Gatcina (LA)
Victory
2,511 (22,778)
831 (22,982)
Hlusk (PAH)
Victory
1,419 (22,430)
1,867 (39,961)
Demidov (MA)
Defeat
3,596 (13,917)
1,063 (113,855)
Malyn (AotP)
Victory
939 (43,377)
749 (64,106)
Staraya Toropa (MA)
Defeat
870 (80,127)
1,310 (84,322)
Golynki (PAH)
Defeat
4,039 (21,289)
1,577 (43,397)
Krychaw (MA)
Victory
115 (21,110)
829 (2,949)
Liezna (MA)
Defeat
2,373 (66,403)
1,005 (28,542)
Rahachow (PAH)
Defeat
3,439 (25,704)
983 (124,812)
Makariv (RA)
Victory
360 (48,793)
2,835 (14,842)
2nd Malkowicze (PAH)
Defeat
2,540 (19,772)
187 (44,590)
Kotovsk (AotC)
Victory
5,073 (28,572)
4,108 (31,883)
Borodjanka (AotP)
Victory
2,511 (23,465)
1,035 (22,698)
Welykyj Tokmak (PAvM)
Victory
306 (36,819)
8,784 (103,051)
2nd Makariv (RA)
Victory
52 (50,521)
1,257 (2,587)
Cornesti (AotC)
Defeat
5,195 (9,895)
1,082 (44,665)
Kamianka (PAvM)
Victory
416 (17,459)
3,222 (8,463)
Nelidovo (PAH)
Defeat
3,848 (17,733)
805 (174,461)
Berezanka (RA)
Victory
613 (9,992)
505 (9,989)
Fastiv (RA)
Victory
1,091 (44,456)
1,144 (9,855)
Kyiv (RA)
Defeat
692 (53,077)
21 (20,756)
Druzhnaya Gorka (LA)
Victory
5,312 (87,953)
1,831 (37,413)
Petrodvorets (LA)
Victory
287 (14,892)
1,198 (8,354)
2nd Golynki (PAH)
Defeat
4,648 (19,272)
716 (107,929)
2nd Gatcina (LA)
Victory
205 (27,939)
2,893 (14,671)
2nd Hlusk (PAH)
Defeat
3,510 (42,381)
1,913 (60,452)
Babruysk (PAH)
Defeat
4,126 (25,283)
137 (11,283)
2nd Borodjanka (RA)
Victory
421 (83,202)
2,263 (31,969)
Berezan (PAvM)
Defeat
7,687 (39,729)
854 (47,150)
Kremenchuk (RA)
Victory
22,798 (106,774)
6,177 (106,835)
Novo Odesa (RA)
Victory
7,692 (64,310) [1,650]]
2,191 (11,288
Total
18/15
101,748
59,126



Probe

Ilyushino (MA)
German
Defeat
4,095
160
Deniskowicze x 2 (PAH)
German
Defeat
1, 8 (9)
Nil, Nil
Parfino x 3 (MA)
German
Defeat
247, 317, 139 (703)
2, 11, 9 (22)
Zhubrovycvhi (AotP)
German
Victory
186
544
Gatcina (LA)
Soviet
Defeat
7
40
Krychaw (MA)
Soviet
Defeat
Nil
262
Novgorod x 4 (LA)
German
Defeat
84, 224, 115, 169 (592)
1, 9, 6, 8 (24)
Tesovo (MA)
German
Defeat
4
Nil
Petrodvorets (LA)
Soviet
Defeat
15
23
Parycy (PAH)
Soviet
Defeat
18
155
Kyiv x 2 (AotP)
German
Defeat
514, 117 (631)
4, 1
Kaniv (PAvM)
Soviet
Defeat
1
4
Leningrad x 3 (LA)
German
Defeat
186, 528, 500 (1,214)
Nil, 7, 8 (15)
Liezna (PAH)
Soviet
Defeat
291
72
Marevo x 2 (MA)
German
Defeat
373, 326 (699)
30, 12 (42)
Kholm (LA)
Soviet
Defeat
Nil
586
Golynki (PAH)
German
Defeat
158
141
Babruysk (PAH)
German
Victory
19
34
Borodjanka (RA)
Soviet
Defeat
3
28
Total
8,645
2,157





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Bombing summary for Barbarossa Days 366 to 362 (July 1 to 6, 1942)

Luftwaffe


Location (Armee)
Commander
Air unit(s)
Casualties
Kotovsk (RA)
Grauert
IX Kfk
86, 137, 129, 55 (407)
Ilyushino (MA)
Schweickhardt
VI Kfk
129, 233, 222, 94 (678)
Andreapol (MA)
Wever
II Kfk
127, 241, 252 (620)
Lörzer
III Kfk
159, 163, 108 (430)
Schweickhardt
VI Kfk
139, 181, 148, 178, 164, 87, 185, 168, 80 (1,330)
Nelidovo (MA)
Kühl
C.S.I.R.
66, 84 (150)
Wever
II Kfk
158, 178, 76 (412)
Krasnyy (PAH)
Pflugbeil
Escadrilla Azul
56, 58, 37, 11 (162)
Kremenchuk (RA)
Dessloch
IV Kfk
201, 232, 182, 133 (748)
Kesselring
II Skfk
139
Kyiv (AotP + RA)
Korten and Keller
VII + VIII Kfk
247, 237, 81 (565)
Kyiv (RA)
Dessloch
IV Kfk
245, 155, 119 (519)
Akciabrski (MA)
Kühl
C.S.I.R.
53, 35 (88)
Berezan (RA)
Dessloch + Keller
IV + VIII Kfk
198, 278 (476)
Keller
VIII Kfk
127, 155, 142, 156 (580)
Sperrle
I Kfk
163, 205, 103 (471)
Leningrad (MA)
Fröhlich
II Kfk
168, 160 (328)
Borodjanka (AotP)
Korten
VII Kfk
171, 172, 40 (383)
Novgorod (MA)
Lörzer
III Kfk
173, 180, 49 (402)
Wever + Lörzer
II + III Kfk
258, 235, 199 (692)
Druzhnaya Gorka (MA)
Kühl
C.S.I.R.
71, 39 (110)
Boryspil (RA)
Lörzer
III Kfk
159, 46 (205)
Dessloch
IV Kfk
149, 70, 142 (361)
Marevo (MA)
Lörzer
III Kfk
217, 211, 94, 190, 188, 73 (973)
Lelchytsy (AotP)
Korten
VII Kfk
147, 192, 54 (393)
Dniprodzerzhynsk (RA)
von Richthofen
V Kfk
146, 146 (292)
Total
11,914



VVS

Svitlovodsk
Bogolyubov
214, 215 ShAD (2 x CAS)
19 (Mensching)
Melitopol
Zhavaronkov
212, 123 ShAD (2 x CAS)
18
Velizh
Volkov
1,72 ShAD (2 x CAS)
Abort (Felmy)
Mironov
128, 137 ShAD (2 x CAS)
26 (Felmy)
Orsha
Yermolayev
207 IAD, 1, 2 BAD (MRF, 2 x TAC)
Abort (Kitzinger, Felmy)
Korovin
125, 172 ShAD (2 x CAS)
Abort (Felmy)
Liezna
Vershinin
9 TAC, 28 ShAD (TAC, CAS)
Abort (Klepke)
Nikopol
Zhavaronkov
212, 213 ShAD (2 x CAS)
26, 32, 15 (73)
Total
136




Unternehmen Barbarossa: Days 366 to 371 (1 – 6 July 1942)

Nationality
Ground Losses
Bombing Losses
Total
German
101,748 + 8,645 = 110,393
136
110,529
Soviet
59,126 + 2,157 = 61,283
11,914
73,197





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Unternehmen Gegenreaktion

Finalised Battles

Abbeville
Victory
Nil (41,959)
117 (9,959)
Beauvais
Victory
24 (1,993)
Nil (9,959)
Ruffec
Victory
112 (20,393)
303 (10,986)
2nd Ruffec
Victory
2 (20,274)
130 (1,256)
Total
138
580




Probe


Argentan sur Creuse
German
Victory
54
245
Marmande
German
Victory
25
Nil




Luftwaffe


Argenten sur Creuse
Deichmann
V Skfk
76




Ongoing Battles

Coutras (Forest) 11.5 degrees
Meyer-Buerdorff (Asault): 30.ID
Debeney (Defend): 43ème Division Cuirrassée

The French armour are proving to be a real obstacle

Marmande (Forest): 11.4 degrees
von Hadeln (Shock): 71, 72.ID
Unknown (Delay) (nullified): 13e Corps d’Armée headquarters

Not a fair fight and will be over soon

Tours (Forest): 11.8 degrees
Gille (Attack): 51st SS Freiwilligen ID “Wotan”
Audet (Defend): 1re Division d’Infanterie

The city will soon be ours.


Unternehmen Gegenreaktion: Ongoing Casualties

Current
Prior
Total
German Ground Losses
138 + 54 = 192
52,668
52,960
German Bombing Losses
Nil
227
227
German Total Losses
192
52,895
53,087
French Ground Losses
580 + 245 = 825
166,048
166,873
French Bombing Losses
76
19,706
19,782
French Total Losses
901
185,754
186,655





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Barbarossa at midnight 6th July 1942: ongoing battles

Leningrad Armee (Paulus)
Objectives: Kohlta Järve, Simsk, Petrodvorets

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Victories: Gatcina x 2, Druzhnaya Gorka, Petrodvorets
Defeats: Nil​

Druzhnaya Gorka (Woods): 7.3 degrees
Kirponos (Shock): 34th Tankovaya, 1st Guards Rifle Diviziya, 11th Mechanised Brigade
Cantzler (Masterful Delay): 28th Jäger Division, 3rd Divisioona, 6.ID

It will take more than this weak Soviet attack to shift Cantzler

Tesno (Forest):
Weyer (Attack): 5th Jäger Division
Zhirov (Defend): 21st Mechanised Brigade, Red Army remnants RES: 9th Mechanised Brigade

Weyer will need reinforcements soon if he is to have any chance of success


Moskva Armee (List)
Objectives: Kholm, Demjansk

22-1Mosk_zps009c42ed.jpg


Victories: Krychaw
Defeats: Ilyushino, Demidov, Staraye Toropa, Liezna​

Krychaw (Plains): 7.3 degrees
Friessner (Attack): 45.ID
Gorelov (Defend): 50th Tankovaya Diviziya RES: 22nd Tankovaya Diviziya

No winner can be determined as yet

Nelidovo (Forest): 7.5 degrees
Haenicke (Shock): 4th Ostmark Division
Batiuna (Delay) (nullified): 2 x Red Army remnants, Proletarian Division, 12th “Kuban” Kavaleriy Diviziya, 3rd Infantry (semi-motorised) Division RES: 31st Tankovaya Diviziya

A pointless exercise that will only lead to more casualties, even though the Russians are close to exhaustion

Dubrouna (Plains): 7.2 degrees
Anisimov (Shock): Red Army remnants
Bohnstedt (Delay) (nullified): 52nd Motorised Division “Torino” RES: 20.ID (mot)

The Italians are fighting hard to cover the retreat of 20.ID (mot), but there are 30,000 enemy pressing hard and “Torino” is close to breaking.


Panzerarmee Hoth (Hoth)
Objectives: Vitsyebsk, Smolensk, Krasnyy

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Victories: Hlusk
Defeats: Malkowicze x 2, Golynki x 2, Rahachow, Nelidovo, 2nd Hlusk, Babruysk​


Liezna (Plains): 7.5 degrees
Leselidze (Shock) (nullified): 11th Strelkovaya Division
Von Knobelsdorff (Ambush): 18.ID (mot), 23.ID

We are in control of the situation

Andreapol (Forest): 7.5 degrees
Brandenberger (Reckless Assault): 16.PzD
Shubin (Defend): 17th Gorno-Kavelriy Diviziya

This battle appears to be a race between our losses and Russian lack of organisation. (30/6)
Having seen the entire starting line-up retreat, only the newly arrived mountain cavalry can rob Brandenburger of victory

Krasnyy (Plains): 7.3 degrees
Jodl (Attack): 85.ID (mot)
Trofimenko (Defend): 25th Kavaleriy Diviziya

Our infantry are effortlessly rolling forward

Parycy (Plains): 7.3 degrees
Fedorov (Breakthrough): 25th, 48th Tankovaya, 6th “Orlovskaya”, 55th “Kursk” Rifle Diviziya, NKVD detachments
Rendulic (Counter-attack): 29.ID (mot)

Rendulic is doing well to hold off this heavy attack, but he cannot last forever

Akciabrski (Plains): 7.3 degrees
Veiel (Attack): 1.PzD
Semenovskiy (Ambush): 60th “Causcasian”, 44th “Kiev” Rifle Diviziya

The Russian infantry have just about had enough

Demidov (Plains): 7.5 degrees
Hoepner (Shock): 3.PzD
Sokolov (Defend): 82nd, 84th Tankovaya Diviziya

The Soviet armour is starting to pull back


Armee of the Pripyat (Dollman)
Objectives: Borodjanka, Malyn, Korosten, Zhytomyr, Volodarsk Volynski

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Victories: Malyn, Borodjanka
Defeat: Nil​

Lelchtsy (Marsh): 7.3 degrees
Warlimont (Attack): 17, 211, 278.ID
Medvedev (Defend): Opolcheniye, 23rd “Kharkov” Rifle Diviziya

Although Warlimont has done well, it will be the terrain that defeats him


Rostov Armee (Henrici)
Objectives: Kherson, Mikolaiv, Chaplynka, Snihurivak

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Victories: Makariv x 2, Berezanka, Fastiv, 2nd Borodjanka, Kremenchuk, Nova Odesa
Defeat: Kyiv​

Berezanka (Plains): 6.0 degrees
Von Obstfelder (Assault): 16th divize
Batov (Delay): 50th Motorised Machine-gun Brigade

After a week of heavy fighting the machine gunners cannot last for long


Panzerarmee von Manstein (von Manstein)
Objective: Kirovgrad, Svitlovodosk, Novo Ukrainka

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Victories: Welykyj Tokmak, Kamianka
Defeats: Berezan​


Boryspil (Plains):
Völckers (Attack): 60.ID (mot)
Yegorov (Defend): 46th Tankovaya, 9th “Crimean” Kavaleriy Diviziya

The Dniepr is proving an obstacle, but Völckers is full of hope

Zaporizhzhya (Urban): 7.0 degrees
Auer (Attack): 10, 18.PzD, 10.ID (mot)
Mishulin (Defend): 46th Tankovaya, 82nd Motorizavannaya Diviziya, 134th Mechanised Brigade, Red Army remnants

Auer is finding the city fighting much harder than he anticipated: the Russians are getting a lot of assistance in the built-up areas.

Berezan (Plains): 7.3 degrees
Von Vaerst (Attack): 6, 11.PzD
Galkin (Defend): 31st, 42nd Tankovaya Diviziya, 16th Mechanised Brigade

Two panzer divisions take a lot of stopping, and Galkin has not been able to do it

Piatykhatky (Plains): 7.4 degrees
Afrosimov (Attack): 17th “Nizhniy-Novgorod” Rifle Diviziya
Stumme (Defend): 5.PzD

Stumme and his men have nothing to worry about from one rifle division

Ivankov (Plains): 7.2 degrees
Kirchner (Attack): 4.PzD
Shubin (Defend): 80th Border Guard Brigade, NKVD detachments

The Soviets are starting to feel the strain


Army of the Crimea (von Falkenhorst)
Objectives: Cahul, Romanesti

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Victories: Kotovsk
Defeats: Cornesti​


Kotovsk (Plains): 7.2 degrees
Degtaryev (Attack): 2nd Heavy Tank Brigade, 2nd Tuvanska Strelkovaya, 59th Tankovaya RES: 22nd „Krasnodar“ Rifle Diviziya
Brennecke (Defend): Notfallgruppe


Unternehmen Barbarossa: Ongoing Casualties

Current
Prior
Total
German Ground Losses
110,393
2,723,846
2,834,239
German Bombing Losses
136
5,834
5,970
German Total Losses
110,529
2,729,680
2,840,209
Soviet Ground Losses
61,283
3,154,281
3,215,564
Soviet Bombing Losses
11,914
376,783
388,697
Soviet Total Losses
73,197
3,531,064
3,604,261




War at Sea

Current
Prior
Total
U-boat losses
Nil
12
12
Convoys
German
1
28
29
British
3
364
367
French
Nil
25
25
Canadian
1
28
29
South African
Nil
7
7
New Zealand
2
52
54
Australian
Nil
32
32
Belgian
Nil
5
5
Norwegian
Nil
37
37
Greek
Nil
17
17
Soviet
Nil
10
10
Total
Allied Convoy Losses
6
577
583


Escorts
German
Nil
11
11
British
4
258
262
Canadian
Nil
28
28
French
Nil
12
12
New Zealand
Nil
20
20
Australian
Nil
44
44
Belgian
Nil
9
9
Norwegian
Nil
9
9
South African
Nil
22
22
Greek
Nil
6
6
Soviet
Nil
7
7
Total
Allied Escort Losses
4
415
419

Destroyers
German
Nil
1
1

Norwegian
Nil
2
2

Soviet
Nil
16
16





Torpedo Boats
German
Nil
2
2

Norwegian
Nil
2
2

Russian
Nil
1
1





Coastal BB
Norwegian
Nil
2
2





Aux Vessels
German
Nil
2
2

Soviet
Nil
4
4





Subs
Norwegian
Nil
1
1

Russian
Nil
4
4
 
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Depressing, da? Woops ... been studying so much Russian recently that it is slipping into my English ...
 

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Indeed, the Luftwaffe is currently the only brach doing a decend job. I wonder if the Soviet air wings have been destroyed? That might force the AI to build new units, which means fewer land units in the queue.

How's the Soviet manpower currently? Any idea if you managed to take them down by a significant margin by now? (Still think that BICE is way too harsh against players here, giving the Soviets that insane amount of manpower). How is your own manpower / officer level doing right now?

How is your rare stockpile holding? (Has this been addressed in more recent BICE builds?)

What's your schedule for France? When will that affair be dealt with? When will the forces commited there arrive in the east? Will the Italians send their units as well?
 

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At least your Allies will bleed with you now
 

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Apologies for the delay in replying: time is once again a scarce commodity and I am using what spare time I have to write the AAR - they are taking forever now.



So no Operation Husky. Maybe at least some of the Italians can go east then. Personally I like the idea of goading the CW into trying Sardinia so you can go back and capture the rares for yourself. We can hope that they will have the manners to wait until the French part of Vichy France is dealt with, freeing up enough of your troops to take advantage.

At the moment I am not goading anyone = if Bulgaria got a bit angry it would be difficult to find the men to deal with it.

I think it's more important to crush the remaining Soviet pockets than protect south europe from invasion. You may even want them to invade in order to hold large numbers of troops where you can see them. I remember an AOD game I played as Italy where the US did operation Torch and I was forced to stop them in North Africa using a mix of Italian troops and Spaniards. I made a fortified line in Algeria and the US shipped dozens of divisions over along these two provinces, while I shipped most of the Spanish army over to the fortifications (Italy and Portugal defended Spain proper.) The US divisions kept throwing themselves at the fortifications and losing vastly more troops until this massive stack of dozens of divisions was a shell and I could encircle and destroy it.

Stop! Stop! This talk of dozens of US divisions is going to give me nightmares. And I will try to clear up the trapped Soviets, but there are between 12 - 20 divs in the Odessa pocket and it will take some time.

That was an ugly week. I think there's no question that the Italians need to go East.

Well, I am not so sure: whatever I do it won't be soon as I will take all the German divs out of the west first and leave the Italians to mop up.

As long as the Italians are able to hold their own, they're doing everything one can reasonably expect from them.

With operations in France almost over, the reinforcements for the eastern front will mean quite a boost to the staying power of the southern armies.

Any notes about planned deployments within the next few weeks? If a tank division would finish training soon, that'd be awesome.

Not sure when you wrote this: there were some reinforcements in the last post: LSSAH to PzD, 2 x Inf divs, the Italian 8th Army and the "Blau" division. Not much for a while after that: some mot brigades to boost some of the weaker armour units.

I definitely do not have the patience to deal with this like you do, Uriah. Hopefully the SS will allow you to break Leningrad and then move on to Moscow. It is too bad you can't get better numbers on surrenders and overruns, they could give you a better picture on how you stand.

Patience? I am desperately trying to uphold my dwindling reputation. I might be the only German player who started in 1936 and lost. But not yet! We have our wonder weapons!

russian language studies intensifying ...

Da and nyet: that's as far as I go.

Now would be a good time to release Baltic states as puppets, to get more men fighting against the Red Army. :)

See below: it is not really men, it is quality divisions. I will never match the Soviets in men, I have to beat them from a position of numerical inferiority.

Not that good an idea. They'll only raise pure INFxINFxINF divisions. They start with the German current tech levels, but they'll not research anything much plus they'll be helpless against anything with armored or support brigades.

That was my thought: I already have some problems with the Italians and some of my light units.

If Uriah builds only pure support brigades from this time forward and sends them to shadow the Baltic units in hopes they will fight the same battles, might that still make it worthwhile?

I am building support units but to boost existing units - there are still quite a few with only four brigades. They take a long time and cost a lot. I can't really take on more building now.

Pure support brigades have a width of 0, and will not fight on the front lines. Units must have a width >0 to actually shoot in land combat - pure HQs stay in the reserve and NEVER join the front lines, even if participating in combat.

See below: I don't think that was what he meant. But welcome to the commentary - I don't think you have posted here before.

I may have used the wrong term. What I meant to ask is that if Uriah built (either only or in part) Anti-Tank, SP artillery, Tank Destroyer etc. brigades in his production queue and tried to camp them in the same places with the Baltic units which would be all infantry-only, would that work in his favor? Would the combined arms bonus, or whatever Black Ice uses that is similar, come into play or would the Baltic units usually fight separately from the German units, negating any combined force efficiencies which one might hope for if one were in Uriah's position?

I am not sure how BI treats puppet units, but I can't change the Finnish and Italian expeditionary units.

No, that wouldn't work. These units - if they would even have the frontage to fight - would be treated as just another division. So the puppet-units would get pummeled because of lack of support, while the German support units would get pummeled because of a lack of infantry in the unit.

Beyond that, I don't think you can release puppets in places you merely control. You need to own the land to release a puppet. The only exception being event-puppets like Croatia or China-Nanjing.

You are right: the only puppets I can release are Poland, Luxembourg, Czechoslavakia and Slovakia.

I remember that ICE had an event chain where you could create puppets after BP. So I don't think it would be possible during the war.

I have never been a big fan of puppets - but maybe if I get BP I will consider it. I think I have plenty of time.

Thanks George Parr for answering my question. Another idea down. It is not looking good for the Doppleganger. Maybe one of these times one of us will think of a silver bullet for him.

It may take more than a silver bullet. But things do improve a little. Though I have only played up to about 20/7/42 (0r 7/20/42 for all those in the US)

Awful losses there, at least Luftwaffe is a consolation.

The Luftwaffe is proving to be a steady provider: an unintended benefit of not advancing. It has settled down, arranged its units better and got supply flowing properly.

The Soviet Pocket in Romania needs to be crushed... Those troops are sorely needed elsewhere... Same with France. I see 7 Italian armored divisions in that screen that need to go East as soon as possible.

Italian armour, I suspect, would be no match for the Soviet armour. As mentioned above, it will be while before the Italians mop up the French, most of my units are heading east.

Depressing, da? Woops ... been studying so much Russian recently that it is slipping into my English ...

Depressing?? I prefer to think of it as challenging. Really challenging. Maybe depressingly challenging.

Indeed, the Luftwaffe is currently the only brach doing a decend job. I wonder if the Soviet air wings have been destroyed? That might force the AI to build new units, which means fewer land units in the queue.

How's the Soviet manpower currently? Any idea if you managed to take them down by a significant margin by now? (Still think that BICE is way too harsh against players here, giving the Soviets that insane amount of manpower). How is your own manpower / officer level doing right now?

How is your rare stockpile holding? (Has this been addressed in more recent BICE builds?)

What's your schedule for France? When will that affair be dealt with? When will the forces commited there arrive in the east? Will the Italians send their units as well?

I don't think they have been destroyed: a lot have been dropped to zero STR but reappear. I have never been able to work out how air units are destroyed, but suspect they must be at zero at the end of a day.

Soviet MP is just over 2,000, but I think they might have several options to call on. My MP is about 760 and dropping steadily, and officers are at about 80% and stable since I cut research by about 5-6 projects.

Rare material is about 74,000 and dropping about 100 a day. I have managed to boost production to about 280 per day. So I have nearly two years. The new BI versions do seem to treat trade and RM a bit differently, but I haven't had time to play them very far.

The first SS are in combat in the next update, the second tranche will arrive in about a week or so, the last armeekorps is still in France. There are also about 3-4 regular divs in France. No decision yet on the Italians.


Romanians better join you soon... There is no event to push them into Axis?

Not that I know of: what I can spare for espionage is busy in Vichy (dragging down National Integrity or whatever it is called) and Nat Spain (trying to get them to join). The Romanians must be very weak by now: they have had a horrible time.

I would think there should be 2nd Vienna Award? I wonder why that never happened.

I don't know or maybe I should say I don't remember it happening. Usually I favour the Romanians as Hungary is locked in by then.

At least your Allies will bleed with you now

That is a wonderfully uplifting thought but I prefer to have my Allies bleed for me.
 

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There is an event for Romania to join the Axis, though it depends on which black ice version you have whether it is available for the player, as they changed it back and forth between different versions. The really old versions had them ask to join after the second Vienna award. This was replaced by the event only firing for the AI, which sometimes caused problems because you couldn't get Romania near enough for them to join, especially if Hungary got part of the country, as that led to the Axis holding Romanian cores which made them move away from the Axis (similar to the jumping Vichy). Afterwards it went back to everyone getting the event again. You probably use the one in the middle for this AAR ;)