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Seylanov said:
Good.
What are some new ones?

A short list (not complete):


#1;The 2-2-6 Incident
#2;General Election
#3;Yugoslavia breaks the Pact of Steel
#4;War with Yugoslavia
#5;Yugoslavia signs the Pact of Steel
#6;Coup d'etat in Yugoslavia
#8;Iraq switches sides
#9;Iraq switches sides
#11;The end of Tannu Tuva
#12;Tannu Tuva becomes a Soviet republic
#13;Negotiated peace with the United Kingdom (Germany)
#14;Negotiated peace with the United States (Germany)
#15;Negotiated peace with the United States (Japan)
#17;Pearl Harbor
#18;Surprise attack
#19;The enemy recovers
#20;Marco Polo Bridge incident
#21;Marco Polo Bridge incident
#22;Nomonhan Incident
#23;Battle of Khalkin Ghol
#24;Changfukeng Lake Incident
#25;Chasan Lake Incident
#26;Altmark Incident
#27;Altmark Incident
#28;Altmark Incident
#29;Fall Weserubung
#30;Destroyers for bases
#31;Destroyers for bases
#32;The Arsenal of Democracy
#33;The undeclared war
#34;USSR absorbs eastern Europe
#35;USSR establishes satellite states
#36;Surrendering to the Allies
#37;Italy joins the Allies
#38;German surrender negotiations


Edit: I have to say that my former estimate is not accurate, I have no idea how many new events that is in DD. These where just copy/pasted from the HOI2 event file.
 

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So there are no events for an end to the cold war? The allies would need to conquer the entire Soviet Union and then annex them?

Seems pretty pointless. I don't see much point in paying money for an expansion pack when the only update other than game mechanics is an empty shell of a scenario.
 

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Nobby said:
So there are no events for an end to the cold war? The allies would need to conquer the entire Soviet Union and then annex them?

Seems pretty pointless. I don't see much point in paying money for an expansion pack when the only update other than game mechanics is an empty shell of a scenario.

You worded that very well.
 

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Reading it again, I think it refers to a new battlescenario instead of an occurance in one of the grand campaigns.

The manual also says "several new or revised scenarios"

The only thing is, there aren't any new scenarios.... is it something still being worked on?
 
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Well several scenarios have been revised (lit. patched), so I guess that statement is true.
 
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Disappointing isn't the word. From what I have read on this thread (I do not own a copy of Doomsday, just the original HoI II), this new "expansion pack" is an utter shambles - what is actually new?
 

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Jimbo_Jools said:
Disappointing isn't the word. From what I have read on this thread (I do not own a copy of Doomsday, just the original HoI II), this new "expansion pack" is an utter shambles - what is actually new?

Exactly! What is actually new besides the intell tab? Thats nice and all but not worth my the price of a game.
 
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Jimbo_Jools said:
Disappointing isn't the word. From what I have read on this thread (I do not own a copy of Doomsday, just the original HoI II), this new "expansion pack" is an utter shambles - what is actually new?

I agree, Doomsday seems to be a surprisingly rushed and sloppy production. :mad:
 

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You expected too much.The game has added artwork,some new gameplay ei Intel and much better A.I, plus lot of changes under the hood.This about average content for an expansion pack.

I am happy with the game,do the haters actually have the game?
 

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those listed are all old
there are at least a couple new events however. the only one I've come across thus far is the japanese asking for german recognition of manchukuo chain

/edit: crap, didn't realize there was a second page :p
also, I think by 'reworked battlescenarios' they improved the ai for them all
 

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Personally DD for me simply means an improvement in game mechanics and the AI. I've only downloaded the demo so far, but when I started playing, I started the normal 36 GC and not the doomsday scenario.

So, looking at it from this point of view, I have to say that I'm optimistic about the game. Playing as SU my 3 hours ended at october 41, and I was SHOCKED that for the first time ever, Germany had succeeded in occupying Kiev, Minsk, Sevastopol, the Baltics and were almost to Leningrad when the game cut off. Obviously there has been a considerable AI improvement, but little new content since even the doomsday scenario was kind of already there in the "Cold War gets Hot" event that usually fired after the defeat of germany. So personally, I treat this new game as a BIG patch, no more, no less.
 

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Danielos said:
I agree, Doomsday seems to be a surprisingly rushed and sloppy production. :mad:

hey ! it was not that expensive, and the game is now much more fun (better AI, gamey subs gone, autosliders).

Off course it would have been nice to get this stuff for free - but Paradox decided it isn't free - I have nothing against that... :)
 

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Well, I counted the events in "doomsday_coup_events.txt", "doomsday_death_events.txt", "doomsday_election_events.txt"; assuming that all of them are new, thats 151 new event (+/- 10 due to counting issues).
However, none of these are events that 'make history'..
 
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