Don't stop the dlc yet!

[klopkr]

It's a long wait until ck3. We're still interested and buying! Even if there's been a few dud dlc recently.

I could definetly go for 3-5 more before the end! Anyone else?

 

[moscal]

Next DLC will be last DLC. And this should be good.

Next step of Pdx should be Rome 2 or Victoria 3. We need other concepts, new mechanics, other times etc. not hoary old chestnut. CK have focus on characters and personalites; Victories have focus on economy and internal policy etc. Other title can give tons of new concepts and this should be... interesting...

 

[WomboCombo]

Next DLC will be last DLC. And this should be good.

Next step of Pdx should be Rome 2 or Victoria 3. We need other concepts, new mechanics, other times etc. not hoary old chestnut. CK have focus on characters and personalites; Victories have focus on economy and internal policy etc. Other title can give tons of new concepts and this should be... interesting...

They have Space! You want space?! Also if you call CK2 a hoary old chestnut again I will fight you.

 

[blackninja9939]

Next DLC will be last DLC. And this should be good.

Next step of Pdx should be Rome 2 or Victoria 3. We need other concepts, new mechanics, other times etc. not hoary old chestnut. CK have focus on characters and personalites; Victories have focus on economy and internal policy etc. Other title can give tons of new concepts and this should be... interesting...

Pretty sure they said they will keep doing DLC until people stop buying it, nothing gives the impression the next is the last.

 

[CatilinamSum]

Pretty sure they said they will keep doing DLC until people stop buying it, nothing gives the impression the next is the last.

Actually, they've stated before (though not recently) that this DLC would be the final one. I'll see if I can dig up the quote.

Edit: I found it.

Summer is here and work in Sweden is grinding to a halt. Everyone has shed their winter skin and developed a peculiar form of photosynthesis, and are now idly vegetating in parks and lawns around the country. The season really is tragically short here… I myself am likely doing the same today, trying to develop some sorely needed vitamin D. That’s why I wrote this dev diary last week; it’s all about planning ahead, which brings me to the topic of the week - the future of Crusader Kings II.

Is it time to let go after 11 (soon to be 12) expansions? Not a chance! There are still some areas left to explore, and when we finally decide the time has come, I want the game to be in the best shape possible. We’ll soon be announcing the upcoming expansion, which is slated for release in late August. It’s not a huge one this time around, but there is plenty of good stuff in there as you've probably gleaned from Darkrenown's diaries. After that, we have two more expansions teed up. The first will be somewhat similar to Way of Life in scope and theme, and the second one will likely be huge. After that, it might really be time to let go, but it’s also possible we’ll wind down with another small expansion (nr 15).

We learned some valuable lessons with Horse Lords and Conclave, both when it comes to design and implementation. Crusader Kings II is an old dog now, and it’s getting harder to teach it new tricks. It is unlikely that we’ll mess around with the core gameplay mechanics like we did in Conclave. Instead, we’ll optimize the game and improve the AI (sorely needed, though I've done some work on it for the upcoming patch) and moddability in the free updates, and focus on roleplaying features and quality of life stuff in the expansions. That said, there are still some blanks in the Old World; rulers you cannot play and regions not yet covered…

I'm afraid that will be all this week. Back to my sun lounger... where's my Gin and Tonic? Oh, and let the speculation commence!

 

[blackninja9939]

Actually, they've stated before (though not recently) that this DLC would be the final one. I'll see if I can dig up the quote.

They said they had two left before Monks and Mystics but then also said after that they would keep making them as long as people kept wanting them.

 

[moscal]

Pretty sure they said they will keep doing DLC until people stop buying it, nothing gives the impression the next is the last.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/crusader-kings-2-dd-14-the-road-ahead.957206/
3 DLC and end of CK2...

ONE - Reaper
TWO - M&M
THREE is last.

 

[moscal]

They said they had two left before Monks and Mystics but then also said after that they would keep making them as long as people kept wanting them.

Source please...

 

[blackninja9939]

And there have been further posts saying that there is no hard limit, I will try and find the quote

 

[CatilinamSum]

They said they had two left before Monks and Mystics but then also said after that they would keep making them as long as people kept wanting them.

Yeah, seems they were a bit less firm on things than I'd remembered. Still, I get the feeling that the upcoming DLC will be the last, or the next to last. It was mentioned in a recent stream that the "huge" expansion is no longer huge, and that numerous features have been cut for CKIII. My theory is that they planned to add China, but changed their minds at some point during the process. That's why we'll be seeing Tibet... but nothing further to the east.

 

[blackninja9939]

Yeah, seems they were a bit less firm on things than I'd remembered. Still, I get the feeling that the upcoming DLC will be the last, or the next to last. It was mentioned in a recent stream that the "huge" expansion is no longer huge, and that numerous features have been cut for CKIII. My theory is that they planned to add China, but changed their minds at some point during the process. That's why we'll be seeing Tibet... but nothing further to the east.

I imagine this upcoming one will be one of the final DLC, as you said probably second last one but who knows.
I can't find the exact quote as I am awful at using this site's search feature, but they definitely started out saying two left pre MnM but made that far less set in stone. Is there a video of that stream up on youtube yet out of interest?

 

[CatilinamSum]

I imagine this upcoming one will be one of the final DLC, as you said probably second last one but who knows.
I can't find the exact quote as I am awful at using this site's search feature, but they definitely started out saying two left pre MnM but made that far less set in stone. Is there a video of that stream up on youtube yet out of interest?

Not that I know of. I'll edit into this post if I find it.

 

[Foreign Alien]

Doomdark has been hinting at CK3 for a while. I'd be surprised if they continue working on CK2.

 

[blackninja9939]

Doomdark has been hinting at CK3 for a while. I'd be surprised if they continue working on CK2.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are already working on CK3 to an extent, I doubt we will hear anything about it until like after 2020. Not to mention there are 4ish projects being worked on I believe and I imagine some of them ware gonna be closer to completion by then over CK3.

 

[Rationalsanity]

The game is already creaking under the weight of DLC (some well designed, others less so....) and the engine is at its limits. I think its time to put this game to a well deserved rest, patch it up great after the last DLC, and then move onto other things (hopefully Vicky). Then, in a few years (the 2020s at least), revisit the series and see what they can do with a newer engine.

I think the biggest limit is that every realm essentially works the same, the game never really broke the straightjacket that was French feudalism from release (Horselords was the closest thing, and that's of debatable quality). We need a new engine to properly model the medieval world.

 

[Count Hasimir Fenring]

I believe this game was finished after Horse Lords and I still play it rolled back to the last pre-conclave patch. Honestly Rajas of India was the death rattle of the game IMO. Even though I like RoI the game has been a bit messy and bogged down ever since. When you think back to what the game was like on day 1 and look at it now I don't really think you could ask for much more. They really tried to give everyone everything they ever wanted. It's done now.

 

[Vjeldan]

What is going on? Why so many tired people with no more lust for more CK2?
Its alright if they start(ed) working on CK3 and put a slower pace on CK2 development, but don't stop!
CK2 is one of the greatest games ever made and to surpass it will need years of good work. Years in which i do still want to play CK2 and with more content added. Especially the Monks and Mystics DLC opened up the game to more religious detail which in turn could make india and also africa great regions to play in. The mechanics of MaM are great imho, they just need more meat in non-christian areas at the borders of the known world!

 

[VoodooEconomist]

Source please...

Here you go:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...-planned-dlcs-are-left.1004233/#post-22520392

 

[Zaltys]

Next DLC will be last DLC.

The devs have literally never said that. Just a made up rumor persistently spread by some of the users.

 

[VoodooEconomist]

The devs have literally never said that. Just a made up rumor persistently spread by some of the users.

Well no, it's not just a rumour, see the Doomdark DD which CatilinamSum quoted. They did say they are thinking of ending it. It was just not set in stone and Johan confirmed that they are more flexible on the issue.