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Duma said:
And what is this I hear about rampaging over the Muslim's Frank? :p

Nothing against you, nothing. Don't transfer our Tuesday battles here, we don't need this in here also and you can keep those pyramids, say them I love them so much. Only about those stupid AI muslims ones boarders and around me like Crimea and Uzbek so don't care about your monuments in place. :)
 

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I might be late if we push the game back that far. I am in the Europe's Golden Age 2 and last week it went until 7:30 EST but we are starting an hour earlier today so we will have to play it be ear. I definitely am planning on playing tonight but the start time might conflict.

If everyone could be ready for 7h or 7h30 it will be good :cool:
 

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So what time are we actually starting tonight? I just finished up my prior game and would like to scrounge up some dinner before we play....cooking now, I will be on ICQ
 

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Then unfortunatley Austria and England will be conflict eventually ;)
 

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It was my understanding that we would refire the event but apparently since you are the GM and the person who is making random claims on dutch lands that the edit is not now going to happen.
 

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Veilwalker said:
It was my understanding that we would refire the event but apparently since you are the GM and the person who is making random claims on dutch lands that the edit is not now going to happen.

reminds me , dynokeg won't b able to show up tonight however he gave me a edited save with edits that where suposed to be done for austria i'm asuming burg might be in it...
however burg wn't get event if atwar eitherway so for you i hope its atpeace
 

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Fun session although I really hope Austria pays for their disrespect of France. :)
 

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Edits for the save:

Cyprus to be edited to Venice
Cores on Dutch NL provinces except for Artois. Cores on Luxembourg and Alsace for Austria

Please post any additonal edits here or contact me by ICQ.

Also $250 for an AAR post of quality as judged by me.
 

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The Year Of Our Lord 1499

john_cabot_550_2.jpg


"His Majesty the King has decreed that money shall be hence taken from the royal coffers and made available to outfit an expedition of 3 vessels for the purpose of opening trade with India."

"The Lord John Cabot shall lead this expedition across the Ocean in search of a way to India, all funds shall be made available to eensure it's sucess."


And so it came to be that on April 12th 1499, three of his Majesty's ships left the Thames harbour outfitted for a trans-oceanic voyage of discovery.

The wooden hulls of the ships slip gracefully through the dark waters of the Atlantic, we steer almost directly west from England. After six cold and dangerous months there comes a cry from the mast.

"Land HO!"

A racous cheer erupts from the deck as sailors rejoice in their sucess. Cabot the man who sucessfully navigated three lonely ships across the harsh ocean smiles and says;

"I shall name this land New Foundland and let Europe know it was us the English who have discovered this new land."

The dark craggy shores of this unexplored land look so inhospitable that the decision si amde to turn the ships to the south in the hope the land will be better in a warmer climate. The coast here is thickly wooded and looks slightly less cold. A small party goes ashore and sends back a signal.

"There is enough here to make a small settlement, I decree that a Trading Post shall be built to trade valuable naval supplies. the settlemant shall be called Bangor".

The ships continued south and trading posts were also built in Manhattan and Cheasepeake. Cabot and his men lay anchored off the Cheasepeake river estuary waiting for a settlement to be built of suffecient size so they can make landfull and resupply.
 
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Fun session although I really hope Austria pays for their disrespect of France. :)

Disrespect of France? The only disrespect was done by France taking what does not belong to her.
 

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Veilwalker said:
Disrespect of France? The only disrespect was done by France taking what does not belong to her.


actually you did worse , france didn't attack any vassal state while the player of that vassal as atwar you did
 

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so sorry for not being there yesterday, unfortunately I had problems with my connection, I'll try to bitch my telefone company (a lot) to make them clair who pays! grr, sundays' night are not an excuse not to pay attention to me! :D

sorry again, I'll be there next session. Can i suggest 2+ centralization movements in the sliders for BB? hope noone partitionated it when i was without connection :rolleyes:

Btw, I'll be more diplomatic with Austria since Netherlands is now a concern of BB as well it is for Austria.
 

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Javier (Pibe) said:
so sorry for not being there yesterday, unfortunately I had problems with my connection, I'll try to bitch my telefone company (a lot) to make them clair who pays! grr, sundays' night are not an excuse not to pay attention to me! :D

sorry again, I'll be there next session. Can i suggest 2+ centralization movements in the sliders for BB? hope noone partitionated it when i was without connection :rolleyes:

Btw, I'll be more diplomatic with Austria since Netherlands is now a concern of BB as well it is for Austria.

BB was subbed for most of the session then left idle, I think the sub did a solid job :)
 

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What exactly was Austria supposed to do? It isn't like we had any choice. France moved to ensure that Austria would never gain its rightful lands. France is already much stronger than Austria and then France moved to try to bottle Austria up in Southern Europe. There isn't an Austrian player in the world that would have just stood by and taken those hits on the chin.

PS: I don't see King John and Spain on the stats.

Additional edits would be the Badboy for Austria. Austria should not have received badboy for the actions in the Low Countries.

Lag Loans; I took one loan and received the money for that but I did not take the 5 additional loans that the stats show nor did I receive the money from those loans. We may need to consider some cash as well since those non-existent loans ate up a lot of my income for no benefit to Austria and increased inflation with little return to show for it. I wondered what the deal was during the war that I had absolutely no money, grrr but I can incorporate that into my AAR, damn embezzlers, thank goodness the Fuggers are going to show up one of these years
 
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PS: I don't see King John and Spain on the stats..

heh, I think Spain needs to be put in there instead of "Castile", as seemed to be the problem last week as well.
 

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And yeah, Austria definitely deserves a bb reduction and get rid of those lag loans.

I've had berber provs for about 15-16 years now. I know the rule is you get a culture in 20 years of holding all the provs, but I wouldn't want to ask for an edit 4-5 years into the session(or wait 20 years longer than I should til after the session :wacko: ), so could we edit berber to Spain now? :) I could even promise not to send any missionaries there for 5 years if you wanted ;) .
 
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Generally an ok session for Spain.

The wars against Tunisia and Algiers were successful, resulting in most of North Africa becoming leal to the kingdom of Spain. Afterward, the long project of improving infrastructure in the realm finally paid off, increasing the income from production and allowing the construction of refineries.

The French meanwhile had been becoming a menace to our friends, the Austrians. Seizing lands that rightfully belonged to the Hapsburgs or were within the bounds of the HRE, the French king wantonly provoked Austria to a war, in which he was also greatly outnumbered and outgunned. Not wishing to leave his ally to fend for himself, the king prepared the army for war. El Gran Capitan raised levies across the kingdom and led the new army to war.

There were problems with supplies at first, and neither side would dare to cross the Pryenees. Eventually the French became tiresome of the lame war and took the initiative themselves, invading from Bearn. Their invasin was thrown back, and El Gran Capitan with his 20,000 cavalry in gerona tried to intercept the fleeing French when he heard the news, but was apprehensive because he knew there would be French reinforcements nearby. He chose to take the risk, but his fears proved well founded and had to retreat before he could inflict any serious damage.

The next stage took place when another daring general, the Duke of Alba, set off with a 10k infantry army to beseige La Rochelle. It was an easy place to defend from for Alba, but the French attacked with over 40k. The stubborn general refused to retreat and was taken prisoner along with what remained of his army after the general slaughter.

El Gran Capitan returned to Spain and took command of the main army. The Poitou campaign was a big failure, and Roussilon was impossible to invade, but Gascogne was still a possibility.

With a total of 40k at his disposal, the brave general led the attack. He landed in Gascogne with 20k, while a cavalry army remained in reserve for when needed. There were some skirmishes that the Spanish won without much trouble, but soon the major attack came. General Foix crossed the river to engage the Spanish army with 60k, while another 40k flanked from the south. It was 100k vs 40k, but the defensive advantage of the forests and the river, with the superior skills of the Spanish general allowed for the French to be repulsed, with over 13k casualties to Spain's 5k. With attrition the losses were greater for Spain, but the victory itself allowed for the capture of Bordeaux.

After that, the war went downhill for Spain. 12k cavalry were lost in France, when they were pursued into Bourbon by 18k French. The French launched an invasion of Spain itself and assaulted successfully through two provinces. The counterattack failed, but once the French retreated the provs were of course retaken. But another event compromised the war.

The Muslims who once occupied the south, had been nearly all converted to the true faith in the last decades. However, the governors of these lands were not satisfied and purged the land of those who had converted and caused huge uprisings. The land was no longer stable, and by this time war exhaustion had become rather high too. Besides, the war with France was going nowhere.

50 ducats were sent to Paris for peace, along with an agreement to a 10 year non-aggression pact, in 1493.

On a brighter note, Columbus discovered the new world during this time, and had created the first settlement there on an Island named "Cuba". A civilization called the "Aztecs" was also discovered. They appear somewhat advanced, but will have to be shown the true faith by Spanish missionaries.
 

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Problem with poland

This is Crusader for those who do not know. I have noticed upon playing the game out tell 1533 poland has yet to get 1 general/leader, I havent yet opened up the game text but I do believe, the host should look into this and edit the leader tabel if there is an error. In the mean time I have noticed that Lith has some leaders walking around. Hitoricaly yes Lith and poland did share some leaders but poland had the majority, I will be looking into this more in depth when i get the chance.
 

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Well looking into it I have found that the early generals the 4 or 5 that are in the game between 1460-1522 are with Lith and around 1550 poland starts getting its generals. Must be a new edit i'm unaware of :).