Does Thread vary geographically?

[LastSalian]

Haven't seen this information anywhere? Vassalized some emirs in Arabia as the Caliph and suddenly everyone around formed a defensive pact.

Let's say I declare Jihad in Sweden, will that affect my neighbors too, or just Sweden's neighbors?

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

Sweden is likely not part of pact. If he is not then declaring war on him will not trigger defensive pacts. Usually pacts, even at 100%, will form only with religions you can potentially Holy War (adjacent borders, two sea zones away.)

So if you do not border the Manicheans in Mongolia, Even if you conquer 2\3 of the world they will not be in pacts against you.

I was Roman Emperor and India never formed a pact against me until I took Persia and began to border them. As mentioned the Manicheans in Mongolia? Still no pacts against me.

Great Holy Wars (Crusades or Jihads) will also not trigger pacts. Though same religion foes will likely join as per usual.

Two things raise threat faster than any other. Vassalization and Holy Wars. You can conquer a kingdom through a claim and it would give you about as much threat as holy warring/vassalizing a duchy. Try to avoid doing either.

 

[CaptainPolyp]

If Sweden is in the defensive pact, all the realms in this defensive pact (based on religion) will help Sweden. if your threat goes very high, defensive pacts from other religions may defend Sweden as well. Whether a realm will join a defensive pact depends on his relative strengh compared to you and the distance between your realm and him.

edit: OK, just saw Naughtius Maximus response. I did not take into account it was a Jihad.

 

[LastSalian]

Thanks for the replies, guys. I was actually asking if my Threat value, currently at 71%, will get higher if I attack someone that is far away like Sweden.

 

[CaptainPolyp]

I dunno how Jihad or Great Holy Wars work. But if it was a standard casus belli (holy war, fabicated or de jure claim....), your threat would increase depending on how much land you'd gain. I guess it works the same for Jihads since you would gain land.
I never heard that distance from your realm woud decrease the threat gained.

 

[LastSalian]

I was afraid of that Thanks!

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

Oh. Ahaha.

I misread the OP as well. I thought you were referring to threat in general and just spilled everything I know. Got lucky Great Holy Wars (Jihads) were included, haha.

 

[StarSword]

Yes, some people use wool, others use cotton or linen.

More seriously, what religion is Sweden in your game? Because I think coreligionist AI rulers are likely to join against you even if there isn't an actual defensive pact.

 

[LastSalian]

They are Catholics. Hmm remember they used to be Norse.

 

[StarSword]

They are Catholics. Hmm remember they used to be Norse.

Okay, then if you declare jihad, you're likely to end up fighting most of the Catholic world regardless of the defensive pact.

 

[LastSalian]

Right, guess will go for the dejure claims and head East and go for India once my Thread value is low enough.

 

[DPS]

Oh. Ahaha.

I misread the OP as well. I thought you were referring to threat in general and just spilled everything I know. Got lucky Great Holy Wars (Jihads) were included, haha.

I was going to be a smartass and reply, "No, your thread will be the same no matter where people read it". (Check the thread title.)

 

[deadhand13]

I generally advocate heading east to China for silk. Helps those luxury clothing factories.

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

Right, guess will go for the dejure claims and head East and go for India once my Thread value is low enough.

Once you get to about two empire sizes you can start operating at 100% no problem. Try to keep it to smaller realms if you're going for duchies however.

I successfully pressed a claim for Lombardy as Byzantine Emperor after I had already pressed a claim for all of Western Europe (<3 Karlings.)

It took me literally 10 game years to win it.

 

[LastSalian]

I was going to be a smartass and reply, "No, your thread will be the same no matter where people read it". (Check the thread title.)

Good catch