Does the national focus trees have enough

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RhinOC

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don't get me wrong I love the implementation of the national focus tree but it seems like you can get most of the tree before the end of the war. I think it should have more in it and have more of a choice to it.
Like which should you get at the cost of what you lose not enough time to get them.

As well in terms of the German national focus tree bar plan z there didn't seem to be much outside of what Germany did to do. As probably the main faction of the game I think it should have way more to do outside of what it did. Like focus trees to do some things they wouldn't have like deciding you should be the only power left in Europe and declaring by war on Italy. Like the choice should be there not just Rhineland Anschluss Czech war.

The main point is just I believe the national focus trees should have more choice in them and a sacrifice element. Not necessarily this one stops that one but a lack of time to get. What do ye think?
 

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I think that NF trees are more of a guide rather than a list of options to your nation. although there is no focus to break with italy, you can in fact break with them and declare war on mussolini. the NF tree imo is more a pointer to give the player/ai a push in a certain direction.

I get the feeling a lot of people on the forum think they cannot do something if there is no focus for it. Thats not what I understood. If you are the SU and want to declare war on Venezuela: you can. But because of the implausibility this is no focus. But if you, as a player, want to install a Chavez-like leader there, nothing is stopping you.
 
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There are limits especially if you are one of the democracies but its better to think of the national focus tree like the national ideas in EU4. You don't have to tailor your play to them but it is usually a good idea.
 

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I think national focus tree is something that helps ensure that WW2 will happen, while giving a lot of flavor for nations. You don´t actually rely on it at all, just like EU4 "missions".
 

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I also had this concern but realized that you'll be getting the final focuses somewhere around 42-44. How valuable will they be when the war is basically over already? The oppertunity cost is not always exclusionary. If you spend the entire prewar period buffing up your industry and doing diplomacy and ignoring the focuses that improve your army, it will be that much weaker at the start. If you do the reverse, then you'll have fewer options and weaker industry but a strong army.
 
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I think national focus tree is something that helps ensure that WW2 will happen, while giving a lot of flavor for nations. You don´t actually rely on it at all, just like EU4 "missions".
Oh I know you don't rely on it but it's nice to see things that could have been what the countries wanted to do what those leaders had to choice. I think that the variety would add more flavor and replay-ability. I just feel if theres just a few after a few play throughs you'll just end up doing the same one ever time because it gives the best buffs. like I would like to see somethings like for the germans or japenese where they could do something like ultra (the code breaking machine that was used during the war). the british and the us have the option to set up the mi6 and cia i belive i seen so why don't the germans and the japenese? like i still love it i would just like to see more options especially for the majors