Does the computer suffer of war fatigue?

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I just started a game as the Hansa (version 1.05b), and when I turned protestant, the Papal States and their allies declared war on me. It was a catastrophe; I could get Savoy away easily, France took some territory, but the Papal States just wouldn't let go... the war dragged on for 14 years. Of course, all of Hansa was rebelling by that time, but I saw no problems in the Papal States. Does the computer get additional unrest thanks to a long war, or does it just not show the correct rebel chance when you click on foreign territories?

 

[Lubricus]

I believe the rules are the same for the computer. I've seen both Turkey and Spain torn apart by war-induced rebellion. Remember, however, that the religion of your Hansa provinces might not have been identical to the government's, while the Papacy's probably was.

 

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Actually, all my provinces were protestant, and by the time war fatigue hit (it took a few years, maybe because I wasn't the one declaring the war?), my stability was back at +3. So it should have nothing to do with religion.

 

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I don't know if it has anything to do with religion, but in my current game, Spain had a rebellion of its Central American provinces due to war unrest (or whatever that translates to). It reached as high as 14%, I believe, as Spain had been involved in several wars lasting for years. Religious tolerance is one of the components of rebellion risk....

 

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'Actually, all my provinces were protestant, ...'

There is an important thing you should know of about religion.

When the tolerance slider is maxed for your own religion (you have maxed the slider haven't you ...) different religions give different -x% to revolt.

Max
Catholic = -9%
Reformed = -9%
Protestant = -4% ONLY !!!

Thus protestant nations are much more likely to have rebellions.


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/ Stefan Huszics

 

[Viking]

When fighting a long war dont take war taxes just put 50% on cash and 50% on stability. As long as you keep your capitol, your provinces are not burned to the ground, your armies are not annhilated and you have the same religion as your provinces you can usually keep your head above water during a long war. As england I managed to be protestant while most of my country was catholic have 11 provinces controlled by the rebels or under siege by the rebels war with france, no army and practically no fleet but I stayed on 0 stability because I was running 80% stability 20% cash. It took me half a century to recover but I did.

 

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I had the tolerance slider maxed for Protestantism, no war taxes, and still the entire country revolted.

Um... if your stability is already at +3, do additional investments in stability really lower revolt risks? I thought they went right into my coffers...

 

[Lubricus]

You don't get anything from putting money into stability if it's already at max. Use the money to buy improvements instead...

 

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Well, I believe that the computer have the same rules.....

I actually had a war with Hansa as France and they where revolting like crazy, but France not ;-)

I think that there is a large importance in the second upgrade of the tax collector (hovrattsman). Also it is important if you had a CB or not when the war started.

I had more revolts during non CB wars, then I had with 'justified' wars......

Regarding the slider, put all on stability and if you have +3 everything is automatically sent to the cash box anyway ;-)




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bmolsson
*Just passing by*

 

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Originally posted by bmolsson:

I think that there is a large importance in the second upgrade of the tax collector (hovrattsman). Also it is important if you had a CB or not when the war started.

I had a 'lagråd' / tax collector (?) in each province (which in fact brings a +2% revolt risk -- +3% for bailiffs, -1% for tax collectors). That wasn't so bad. What really pissed me off was the fact that the Papal States attacked ME without a casus belli. I was just minding my own protestant business, and then forced to defend my citizens, and MY provinces revolt while those *#$@!! proto-italians do not. No fair...

 

[unmerged(703)]

Must be some hard coded conditions in the program:

IF user=Kekkonen THEN
GOTO attack
ELSEIf
user=bmolsson THEN
GOTO sendgift

;-)

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bmolsson
*Just passing by*

 

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Yeah, I saw the royalists appear in someone's AAR. England was neglecting it's provinces and had been at war in excess of about 10 years or so.

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'We must do more than defeat their armies, we must destroy them.' General Thomas J. (Stonewall) Jackson

 

[Mellon]

Stonewall jackson, he was a great general, indeed

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the history of the wold is but the biography of great men

 

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Originally posted by Mellon:
Stonewall jackson, he was a great general, indeed

I think you are on the wrong forum, continent and age ...... But I may be wrong..

 

[Guest]

I'm seeking of love, love with you drive me to destruction....

Years not a moment before this, Celebrate we will,

Lose We will, we cannot change...even as british......



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Justice is a controversial subject. Force is well recognized.
-Blaise Pascal

 

[Mellon]

Originally posted by Pomerania Prince:

I think you are on the wrong forum, continent and age ...... But I may be wrong..

you are right, since im only sixteen and have not developed any common sense yet