Does the AI not adhere to coring rules?

[WhiskyGlen]

This is late in my Sweden to Scandinavia game where it reminds me of when EUIV was first released. I remember when EUIV was first released, you commonly saw random provinces from nations like Austria and Poland far away from their mainland. I have not seen that much lately until this game.

Notice the couple Austrian provinces near France and the Netherlands? Also notice the string of Austria provinces to the west of the original mainland? Both of those were blob clusters that just formed very early on the game and have become smaller because I gave a lot of them away in peaces. I don't understand how they ever could have cored them. I suppose it's possible they were nations Austria annexed after making vassals, but I don't remember seeing that. Although I may not have paid a ton of attention. Does AI Austria frequently vassalize far away nations as war treaties?

As a side note, I would like to explain my very strange looking Scandinavia. I am someone who likes things to look nice and even. Well, I had that, but lost a major coalition war. I had to release Finland, lost my land bridge from Holstein to Danzig, as well as the Livonian Order province up there and that weird stripe of Lithuania. The weird string of provinces in England is simply because I only just got to taking from them and I wanted to work my way to their higher value provinces quicker. I should also point out that I actually did far better with my previous Norway game, but then again, I had a string of horrible rulers in this game whereas in that one, I never once had a bad one.

 

[Wizzington]

Yes it does.

 

[V1ribus]

Austria has bits of Belgium and France because of the Burgundian Succession. If anything, you're the weird nation with random bits away from your homeland.

 

[WhiskyGlen]

Austria has bits of Belgium and France because of the Burgundian Succession. If anything, you're the weird nation with random bits away from your homeland.

Mine were explained by how I mentioned I was recently destroyed by multiple coalitions. I actually quit the game at this point because my alliance with France was broke (I did something stupid out of frustration... tried to claim their throne) and yet another coalition with probably 20 members was forming against me. No allies and that large of a coalition in the year 1754 = no point in playing anymore.

Nevertheless, thanks for explaining to me why Austria has provinces in that location. That makes sense. I honestly don't read a lot of events that don't involve me because they rarely say what the results of them actually are.

 

[Mztr44]

Even if Austria didn't get Burgundian Inheritance, it starts with Sundagu which is not connected to the rest of it's territory. Couple that with Austria having a bad habit of snaking it's way through the HRE as it enforces Unlawful Territory CB's etc, and you get some pretty interesting configurations from them sometimes as they lose provinces to wars with France and whatnot.

While it's somewhat common for the AI to vassalize non-bordering nations, I have never seen it annex a vassal that it did not have a border with through land or via a port. For instance, Muscovy will not annex Pskov until it has chewed it's way through Novgorod.

 

[ChildeR]

Didn't we just have a thread about how HREmperor can core any HRE territory?

 

[Aries666]

The only strange thing here is that the OP appears to have never seen the Burgundian inheritance since the game was released.

 

[Sparhafoc]

my alliance with France was broke (I did something stupid out of frustration... tried to claim their throne)

That was always going to end in tears!

 

[WhiskyGlen]

Didn't we just have a thread about how HREmperor can core any HRE territory?

Because I spend all day and night on the forums and see every thread...

The only strange thing here is that the OP appears to have never seen the Burgundian inheritance since the game was released.

I don't read most pop-ups that don't involve my empire. Why would I think there is a major inheritance hundreds of miles from the mainland? It also did not explain the provinces to the straight west of it which were not connected early on.

 

[Kagemin]

Austria starts with a province in that area (Sundgau?), so they can just expand from there.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

It's the NDNHE that don't adhere to coring rules, not AI-controlled nations per se'.

 

[birincikalite]

It's been a lot since I seen a blobby OE

 

[FreeSoc]

This'll be another one of those jumping-to-conclusions threads, then, and you can't even blame this one on the UI.

It's the NDNHE that don't adhere to coring rules, not AI-controlled nations per se'.

I'm assuming that NDNHE stands for Non-Dynamic Non-Historical Event, but it's really not obvious at first glance.

 

[ChildeR]

It's the NDNHE that don't adhere to coring rules, not AI-controlled nations per se'.

Burgundian inheritance works just like normal inheritances in that there is no coring range limit. If Austria had e.g. Holland as PU minor and inherited them, they'd get cores regardless of range.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Burgundian inheritance works just like normal inheritances in that there is no coring range limit. If Austria had e.g. Holland as PU minor and inherited them, they'd get cores regardless of range.

That's roughly the only way it resembles normal inheritances (which are very rare), but it's technically true. Then again, the other NDNHE that springs to mind (magic core in India) certainly does NOT follow any coring rules.

 

[-Malovane-]

Heh - I don't think I've ever seen as aggressive a Bohemia. Btw, what country is that at the tip of Brittany?

 

[FreeSoc]

Heh - I don't think I've ever seen as aggressive a Bohemia. Btw, what country is that at the tip of Brittany?

I don't quite believe what I'm reading, but to my eyes the name on that Breton province seems to read "Ottomans". (If it's not them then it appears to be one of the Irish minors.)

 

[WhiskyGlen]

Heh - I don't think I've ever seen as aggressive a Bohemia. Btw, what country is that at the tip of Brittany?

I don't quite believe what I'm reading, but to my eyes the name on that Breton province seems to read "Ottomans". (If it's not them then it appears to be one of the Irish minors.)

I just loaded up the game and indeed that province is Ottoman as is a province in Southwest France. Here is a new image to show that. If I had noticed that, this thread would have been better suited to that. Both provinces are indeed cored. How on Earth can that adhere to the coring rules?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

What the heck? You're really asking how a colonial range of what must be well over 600 by that date for the Ottomans could reach France to core?

Ottomans could reach the new world to core by that timeframe lol. It wouldn't surprise me if they could take something South of Brazil or in Mexico and core it w/o jumps that late into the game, even without exploration boosting range. I could core from California to Siberia by the late 1500's to early 1600's as Tarascan with exploration, but that SS is from the 1700's and doesn't even cross an ocean ^_^.

 

[WhiskyGlen]

What the heck? You're really asking how a colonial range of what must be well over 600 by that date for the Ottomans could reach France to core?

Ottomans could reach the new world to core by that timeframe lol. It wouldn't surprise me if they could take something South of Brazil or in Mexico and core it w/o jumps that late into the game, even without exploration boosting range. I could core from California to Siberia by the late 1500's to early 1600's as Tarascan with exploration, but that SS is from the 1700's and doesn't even cross an ocean ^_^.

So any port province within colonial range can be cored, but a landlocked province two provinces down cannot? Makes no sense.