Does Ottoman Empire only get excellent rulers?

[delpiero1234]

I recently started a Ottoman Empire game after reading many threads about it and one of my observations is that I tend to get very, very good rulers. The starting ruler was awesome (don't remember stats but very good). His heir who is now the ruler has 5/4/3 and my current heir 6/4/3.
I never had that many good rulers in a row with any other nation. It's great but I was wondering if it's just luck or if Ottomans get better rulers.

Also I think Ottoman is very easy - i'm only in the early game but I am are already dominating. My Mil is lvl 7 and Austria's Mil is lvl 5, France lvl 6

 

[Novacat]

My paused game with ottomans I got a 0-1-3 ruler a few years into starting it... the game is paused until the next beta patch where I can feed my cores to vassals. Also, Ottomans are very stronk in the beginning, much stronker than western or eastern tech groups, but you pay for it in that you are very weak lategame unless you westernize.

 

[delpiero1234]

but you pay for it in that you are very weak lategame unless you westernize.

I plan to westernize after I've conquered at least parts of India
The wiki says it's not worth westernizing as Ottomans but I red many threads on the forums saying it's recommended to westernize late game.

 

[DaveDash]

If you don't Westernize, you will get slaughtered by Western tech groups in combat late game. Not only will they generally be a couple of military techs ahead of you, your units eventually stop progressing late game, and become obsolete. If you don't plan on expanding into Europe you can probably get away with not Westernizing.

I found out this the hard way in my old Byzantium game.

Also, the wiki is probably out of date. Westernization mechanics have changed quite a bit in the last patch.

 

[Marilius]

No they don't get excellent rulers. Besides the first or second, I haven't had a ruler with 1 stat above 4 in 100 years. I've also had 4 rulers back to back with 3+ in all skills. It's a normal chance roll just like most/all other nations from what I understand. Now the rate at which they die is another story. Not making this up; I've had on 3 occasions, 1 ruler die, heir takes throne and then die within the year. I've also had 1 occasion where 3 rulers died quickly (in a roughly 3 year time span), and land on a regency for an Age 0 Heir. Sometimes you have good runs, other times....

 

[delpiero1234]

Well I guess I consider my self lucky this time then
I've had lots of back luck with rulers in previous games though..

 

[Bagle]

I continued an old game and have played over 150 years with excellent rulers/heirs and the only heir with weak stats actually got killed by an event. Are ruler stats completely random or do they have "genetics" as a factor?
Seems to be fantastic luck otherwise.

 

[Dakilla TM]

I recently started a Ottoman Empire game after reading many threads about it and one of my observations is that I tend to get very, very good rulers. The starting ruler was awesome (don't remember stats but very good). His heir who is now the ruler has 5/4/3 and my current heir 6/4/3.
I never had that many good rulers in a row with any other nation. It's great but I was wondering if it's just luck or if Ottomans get better rulers.

Also I think Ottoman is very easy - i'm only in the early game but I am are already dominating. My Mil is lvl 7 and Austria's Mil is lvl 5, France lvl 6

It's all by luck, and in your case, you're very lucky. I've gotten a 0/0/0 heir with the Ottomans before, but thank god there was a "Hunting Accident" ;D

 

[Straigthtsilver]

If anyone gets absurdly good rulers all the time, I'm looking at Khorasan/Mughals. In my game as them (the former becoming the latter), I had a 175 year streak of getting monarchs with stats higher than 4 across the board. Even my 'worst' king was just a 2-4-2.

 

[aitaituo]

That feel when your terrible heir falls ill and is immediately replaced by one with double the stats.

 

[Gundi]

I realize it's totally due to random chance but in every Ottoman game I've ever played I've almost never gotten a ruler below 3/3/3. It's pretty great.

 

[l3ol3o]

I started an Ottomans game this patch. My first 3 rulers were all good. My latest ruler is 0/4/4.

As for Westernizing I haven't put a single point into Dip tech. I just recently finished Westernizing. It was extremely easy and relatively quick. It drains 10 MP from each category. Luckily my Adm and Mil were at 10 at the time so they didn't increase or decrease. My dip however drained down to 0 eventually. I couldn't conquer anything at the time because of the lack of MP but it was over fast enough. I would say it's well worth it.

 

[brifbates]

The Ottomans start with a really good ruler who has a very good heir but after those two die you're back to the normal rng (as a player, non-player gets the lucky bonus). As I recall they are fairly young so you can easily have one or the other of them into the 1500s.

 

[Azaghul]

In my Ottoman game the first couple rulers were good but after that they have all been mediocre.

 

[unmerged(739896)]

In my latest game they got a 1-3-3 and a 1-2-4 ruler, both lived past 70 years of age and delayed the process of moving their capital to Constantinople for a century.

 

[delpiero1234]

I just recently finished Westernizing. It was extremely easy and relatively quick. It drains 10 MP from each category.

Do you get to keep your enacted Ottoman national decisions like the Janissary which gives discipline bonus among other things or the Unify Islam bonuses?

 

[zodium]

If you westernize as Ottomans, you can't vassalize Indian and Chinese tech groups anymore. It's better to just kill off the Western powers.

 

[Junuxx]

The Ottomans start with a really good ruler who has a very good heir but after those two die you're back to the normal rng (as a player, non-player gets the lucky bonus). As I recall they are fairly young so you can easily have one or the other of them into the 1500s.

This. I had several games where Mehmet II's reign lasted into the 1500s.

 

[grommile]

The Ottomans start with a really good ruler who has a very good heir

In 1444.11.11, Mehmet II is 12 years old and has no heir. I've had some right idiots pop up as his heir.

 

[Schmoekoeksklok]

That feel when your terrible heir falls ill and is immediately replaced by one with double the stats.

Another 0/0/0?