Does occupation mean game over?

[wergy]

Let's say you play a small European nation. What happens if Bad ugly Nazis steamroll in the early stages of the game? Does it mean game over? Or do I get some remote troops to support Allied war effort somewhere? Or do I gain control of the local rebels and try to weaken the enemy from the inside?

 

[agentgb]

idk, in hoi3 if you haven't joined a faction, your pretty much gamed over, if your in a faction, you can fight from exile, be given expeditionary forces and so on (from a player), but would need to evacuate your surviving forces otherwise you could be in exile with no units, not sure how supply is worked out, if the faction leader maintains your upkeep from liberated territory from other factions. I'd say you best option would be to use your surviving forces along with any grander effort/plan with your main faction. Not sure if in hoi3/4 if the ai is so kind to gift you units to fight with either.

 

[TheFreak_97]

I hope the government in exile feature is still there, it was really cool for these smaller nations to still keep on playing.

 

[FOARP]

Johan talked about rescuing a few divisions from the surrender of Communist Netherlands on that Twitter AAR he did a while back, so it appears there may be an GiE system.

 

[Daddl]

Its supposed to work like in HoI3. If your nation surrenders while you are not in a faction, its game over. If you are in a faction, all troops in your mainland get abandoned, but you keep overseas territory and the troops there, so you or your allies can liberate your country at some later point.

Of course you need to be heavily supported by your faction members to maintain at least a small industry and army.

You can see that in the latest WWW. The japanese player can still continue after surrender, although he shouldn't have lost his territory in Russia and China in addition to the japanese islands (that was a bug).

 

[sarhkan]

its just as Daddl said. If you got soldiers left that did not get disbanded when your land surrended then you can still continue playing and hopefully take over some small area with help from the faction members.

 

[vota dc]

In Japan case capital was overrun so land ownership of native islands was supposed to be transfered to USA (due to the bug Japan kept the ownership of the islands and USA took Manchuria ownership) but we don't know what happens if both are annexed by USA. Colonial powers that lose mainland ownership but still exists with their colony are in Hoi 2 (with special events to transfer the ownership) but government in exile is another thing that you can do even without land at all.

 

[Bryartuck]

I may have misunderstood, but from what Johan said (I don't recall if it was in a thread or one of the videos) I was under the impression that you needed overseas colonies to continue fighting.

 

[CrasherZZ]

In HOI3, if you belong to a faction you still keep your naval and air forces even if your country is completey occupied. They can be based at an allied port or airfield. If your faction conquers some enemy territory, your government in exile may be awarded a temporary capital and provinces in the occupied territory.