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As I read some AARs I find that Germany get a high BB when Preussen units the other germanic fuerstens, I can't understand it, why?

Does Italian get high BB two when a nation unificate Italy?
 

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Sounds like something for Victoria, so moved from the History-forum

Though could also be an EUIII-question, but I don't think you get BB for forming Germany in EUIII
 

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I hear alot of people complain about the BB. I think it depends on on how the high BB effects you.If the high BB causes nations to attack you right after the unification I don't think its WAD.

But Bismark was aware of how much a powerful Germany threatened the balance of power and spent much of his later foreign policy keeping the peace, building alliances and good relations ect. Had Germany unified and then proceeded to invade Denmark or whatnot, I suspect the European community would be very unamused. So if the high BB forces you to take a decade off from foreign wars and focus on building up internally I think it is WAD.
 

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My opinion
A unification of an own nation doesn't deserve high BB.

If the USA confederation defeats the yankees, it shouldn't get high BB
If red China defeats the KMT in HOI2, it shouldn't get high BB
I don't know whether an italian nation get high BB if the italy was united.
But the neighbours weren't seemly be threathened when Italy was united.


I haven't played Germany, so I don't know how many BB was increased.

At least, it'll be better if there's an event that if Bismarck hold a speech to declare that Germany doesn't have the ambiton of exploring, its BB should be reduced a lot.
And then Germany was not allowed to declare war (forced to get peace truce) or colonize in a decade or so.


Will it be better?
 

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BadBoy has nothing to do with you looking "evil" and everything to do with looking dangerous.

When Prussia became Germany, that scared the ever-loving sh*t out of Europe. Particularly France, of course, but it also worried Austria and Russia and led to the Franco-Russian Alliance. Britain wasn't worried and that's because of what you said about Bismarck...and once Germany went colonial, Britain got worried too.
 

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Note, the hotfixes for Revolutions (see my sig) reduce the Badboy that comes upon Germany via unification from Three Hurrahs.

As for the British, actually they were nervous about Bismarck, but they realized there was little they could do to reverse it, especially given the speed of the Prussian victories in 1866 and 1870. Britain was a great sea power, but its land forces were, to put it mildly, middling. Bismarck himself quipped, when asked what he'd do if the British made a landing on the northern coast of Prussia, remarked something to the affect of sending the local police corps of the area out to arrest them, which gives you the idea of what he thought of British landpower capabilities.

And of course, in 1870 it was the French who declared war first, so any argument that a British intervention would help retain the balance of power in Europe were harder to make, since it appeared it was Napoleon III who was the aggressor, not Bismarck. And few in Europe completely trusted Nap3 after nearly two decades of French adventurism in Europe and overseas.
 

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It probably does deserve the BB, since that represents the rest of Europe getting worried about Prussia's growth and coming to power as Germany.

Consider that if you are unifying Germany earlier than 1870, that it is incomparable to what actually happened in real life, and that we can only imagine that other nations would be even more anxious and worried.

Prepare for such a problem and make friends with Russia and Austria at the very least. Isolating France should be the aim for any Prussian player. If you can guarantee your southern and eastern border is safe, then it will be fun watching the French trying to come across the hills and mountains, to invade you.
 

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Isn't part of that high BB a glitch in the events, anyway?