Does China ever win........

[SchwarzKatze]

Japans infantry still move faster to my areas than my infantry to theirs. They've got a shit load of infantry.

Were you marching into difficult terrains or did your army have low org? They have only 20-some real infantry divisions, the rest are garrisons pulled from all over the place.

You cant even get cb on the warlords because you need 50% tension. And subjugate focus does not help since u cant control them I need factories and resources. Does not help to get divisions from my puppets since the equipment demand shoots through the roof.

You get CB if they refuse, and you can then proceed to conquer them.

 

[Tormodius]

The thing is that Japan's infantry is better early on i think. So its hard for China to fight them. But AI can do it also as i showed above.

Also for players those infantry can be hard to fight. But they are not supermen. With Britain i could defeat those Japanese infantry after some time, when i could set up some nice divisions.

That takes time though, because of earning army xp, producing the necessary artillery needed for high soft attack value, and having it all set up for maximum infantry punch, like assigning infantry experts in government and such. But early in game, maybe its impossible to beat them?

 

[Karaya 1]

It is not. What you cant do is attack them and expect to win. I mean come on. Its China in 37 against freaking Japan. Youre not supposed to win in offensives. But you CAN hold them fairly well at or near the border if you spam enough infantry. I managed to get my Infantry in some armies up to like 70% entrenchment. Its ridiculous what you can do with stacking the right traits in the generals. even without an engineer support company they were up to like 50 something percent.

The most important warlord is Shanxi, because that lets you guard the borders. The other ones you can go and kill when you have build enough divisions later on. I once was lucky and got all of them to agree to subjugation. That was fun. Guanxi is also important since it will let you guard all the ports, but if they are not i nthe war it doesnt matter too much.

Just hold them with rotating infantry while you build up your army xp levels to remove the modifiers slowly.

 

[henzington]

Just put 24 divisions and some forts on the border of the Beijing state and put 24 divisions on the border by shanxi with another 24 divisions to guard the coast. Within a couple years you will be able to push through as long as you build infantry equipment and upgrade your template to 10 infantry and eventually some arty

 

[jgalt87]

Just wage a bitter retreat. If you put up some fall back lines stacked with troops your retreating armies can withdraw behind. Eventually Japan’s supply lines collapse and they get overextended, then just start cutting off their forces, attacking at weak spots. You will drive them out, forcing them to offer a white peace. Accept, then invade after you have sufficient ships.

 

[henzington]

Just wage a bitter retreat. If you put up some fall back lines stacked with troops your retreating armies can withdraw behind. Eventually Japan’s supply lines collapse and they get overextended, then just start cutting off their forces, attacking at weak spots. You will drive them out, forcing them to offer a white peace. Accept, then invade after you have sufficient ships.

Honestly I have done at least three of games where I didn’t lose more then a few provinces from the initial push or naval invasions. With forts and terrain in shanxi it is quite easy to stop japan cold

 

[JerkyJerry]

I've played 3 games as Germany. Not once has Japan so much as grabbed a foothold in Asia. I'm sending copious amounts of equipment to Japan and they still can't enter Asia.

 

[basun]

In my last game as Italy, Japan fought a bitter war vs China from 37 to 40 until China went down. The Japanese struggled for a long time before they managed a decent landing in the south and started gaining ground. After that they pushed in and swept over Singapore, Raj in little over 6 months against some serious resistance, but their infantry actually managed 2 large encirclements vs UK/Raj.

It looked lovely.

When I played Nat. China, the japanese stood no chance really.