Does China ever win........

[ddiplock]

Never seen it happen yet, in every game I have played, the Japanese always beat them!

Makes me wonder if China only has a chance if a human player is controlling them.

I shall continue in hope that the AI pulls a rabbit out the hat for China one day

 

[JaggedyJack]

The last several games I played prior to this new patch I watched as China either stalemated Japan or pushed them out of Asia all together. I haven't seen China outright defeated in awhile. I figured they were balanced that way to make the war last longer. I have not seen the new China yet though.

 

[EricTheGreat12]

I've played a few games with Communist China today and the Nationalists always seem to get steam-rolled early on; they then become a puppet and are "reogranized" into fascists. I'm not sure if this is a combination of minor bugs making China not as active/attentive, or the devs making Japan too aggressive too quickly.

I've only tried the People's Communists; will check later today how it's like to play as the Nationalists.

 

[ddiplock]

I'm playing a German game just now. Japan has stomped all over China and puppeted pretty much the entire region, establishing their "Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere"

Britain has deployed a large number of troops to the Far East in response, while still maintaining a sizable force of about 300k troops in the Home Islands.

Will see how things go, but enjoying it so far!!

 

[Meglok]

The Sino-Japanese war was adjusted to make the war last longer nut usually the ai Japanese will beat the ai Chinese in 1940-41. Ai China is kind of like Poland, it has to fall so that ai Japan has a chance vs the Allies. The game mechanics dont allow cease fires and stalemates.

Now in player v player it is a whole different war now.

 

[am300307]

Japan beating China just feels like a better balance for a ww2 game. Otherwise USA + China vs Japan is a recipe for Japanese disaster.

 

[ddiplock]

The Sino-Japanese war was adjusted to make the war last longer nut usually the ai Japanese will beat the ai Chinese in 1940-41. Ai China is kind of like Poland, it has to fall so that ai Japan has a chance vs the Allies. The game mechanics dont allow cease fires and stalemates.

Now in player v player it is a whole different war now.

I have noticed though the Japanese AI hasn't tried to do any naval invasions in the South. And on 2 run throughs for the sake of it, I noticed the Japanese front during the invasion seemed alot......straighter if you get what I mean? They push down from the north, spread out a bit, and then wheel the whole front West and just push the Chinese back.

 

[caedussl]

Does the attack and defense debuff from the Marco Polo Bridge focus apply to the AI?

 

[SirAndrewD]

First attempt at a Waking the Tiger US game, China drove the Japanese out of Asia without a problem.

 

[robby73]

Cant win with China. Trying to take communist china. Stalemated for 2 years. Cant push into mountains/bunkers and they loose no manpower or equipment.
Another game Japan declared surprise war for some reason or against communist china (meaning me also??) Not ready and got overrun.

 

[Karaya 1]

Japan gets a different kind of Division template when a Player is active in China. It was hidden in the patchnotes somewhere. So when a player is playing in china (or maybe only as big china) Japan gets better divisions.

 

[Thundrag]

I remember Japan ai used to do a lot of naval invasions into guangxi but I don't see it anymore or maybe guangxi camps all its divisions on the ports instead of helping the front

 

[Tormodius]

I have seen it in my recent game. Happened kinda early too
- The thing that happens then is Japan signs a white peace, and China gets Manchuria and the other little puppet Menkukuo.

 

[Quantum_AI]

I have seen it in my recent game. Happened kinda early too
- The thing that happens then is Japan signs a white peace, and China gets Manchuria and the other little puppet Menkukuo.

This exact same thing happened in my game too. I can see Korea got released in your game too. The weird thing is that it was a democratic Korea.

 

[SchwarzKatze]

This exact same thing happened in my game too. I can see Korea got released in your game too. The weird thing is that it was a democratic Korea.

It's an scripted event and it will always be a democratic Korea with no ties to either China or Japan. I don't know why Paradox set it up that way.

 

[robby73]

Japan has now supermen in their army. Infantry are much faster and they hold out for 1 fucking year even with no org or eq. Fuck this. Patch this allready

 

[SchwarzKatze]

Japan has now supermen in their army. Infantry are much faster and they hold out for 1 fucking year even with no org or eq. Fuck this. Patch this allready

But isn't China more reliant on infantry than Japan?

 

[grandad1982]

In my current Germany game Japan spanked China and capitulated them in mid 39.

 

[robby73]

But isn't China more reliant on infantry than Japan?

Japans infantry still move faster to my areas than my infantry to theirs. They've got a shit load of infantry.

 

[robby73]

You cant even get cb on the warlords because you need 50% tension. And subjugate focus does not help since u cant control them I need factories and resources. Does not help to get divisions from my puppets since the equipment demand shoots through the roof.