Does attrition cause manpower loss?

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Is it true that you don't lose manpower to attrition? Is it safe to ignore any attrition warning once you have 100% reliability thanks to maintenance company?
 

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attrition doesn't matter. nor do supplies. or terrain. or weather. or air superiority. or infrastructure. NOTHING matters.
 
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You only lose manpower while fighting. I tried to put 20 divisions (or more) in one 0 infrastructure province in Sahara for a few weeks and only equipment was lost.
 
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You only lose manpower while fighting. I tried to put 20 divisions (or more) in one 0 infrastructure province in Sahara for a few weeks and only equipment was lost.
Really? So all they're losing is equipment and Org?
 

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Is it true that you don't lose manpower to attrition? Is it safe to ignore any attrition warning once you have 100% reliability thanks to maintenance company?

I thought attrition works independently of reliability, which represents the chance of the equipment breaking down under normal conditions and normal use.
 

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With these new battleplans and overall battle system it would be an overkill for AI to handle attrition losses.We would end up a Germany scrapped the barrel in '41.
 

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I thought attrition works independently of reliability, which represents the chance of the equipment breaking down under normal conditions and normal use.

Attrition and reliability are intertwined. Attrition increases the loss of equipment more than the baseline, but it is also mitigated by reliability. So, a really reliable tank will be less likely to break even in a situation with some attrition.
 

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I was just testing this earlier by starting a game, put units to exercise, fast forward 1 year and look at total manpower pool. Do same with repeat order of troops marching on mountains for 1 year at 40% attrition. Do same without doing anything for 1 year. After one year same manpower amount in all 3 instances.

Attrition = Equipment loss ONLY

No manpower is lost from attrition. The only time you lose manpower is from direct combat engagements or if your marines are sunk by submarines...

Edit: Oh with regards to maintenance company 100% reliability - there is some critical failure dice roll for attrition that will still make you lose some equipment regardless of how much reliability you have or maybe there's some hard cap like 99% or something. Either way I've observed equipment loss when troops had 100%+ equipment reliability and training.

hmm actually... they would have had 105% reliability, attrition -6% would make it 99%. maybe that's why. Perhaps if i had even better reliability... need to experiment again argh!
 
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Training is a special case though, the game notifies that you only take attrition from terrain during war. However when I hover over the skull icon during wartime in a desert or wherever, it shows chance for equipment to break which is calculated through reliability. I have 0% chance to break due to brigade, but no description of manpower being lost or not.