Does anyone use conscriptioncenters?

[Nikolai II]

Originally posted by Sgt. Bulldog
I haven't played many games yet, but so far I have had no use for conscriptioncenters and honestly don't see the use. Unless you have a one-province nation or you want - for some reason - to recruit all your army in one province.

Once you have taken Russia, Persia and inherited the turks as the Golden Horde you get huge manpowers and plenty of wars with the Poles (among others.. )

Getting to raise your next 200k army in 4-5 provinces instead of all the way from Ingermanland to Isfahan both speeds up the way to battle for them, as well as reducing micromanagement. (It is a great annoyance to have to open several provinces to build your armies, much nicer to get large armies concentrated at once)

 

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That's an old thread.

 

[Nikolai II]

Originally posted by Patriote
That's an old thread.

Don't tell anyone, but Carolus Rex was so sad that noone was posting in his modded forum, so I went browsing for some valid points to make. *sscchhh*


On Topic: Being old doesn't make it wrong. Conscription Centers are useful whenever you get them, and people have to be reminded of that

 

[Lord E]

I agree with Nicolai II, it is an old tread but the question is always important no matter how old it is.

I use the Conscription Centers as much as I can. I simply love it when you can raise a big army at one time, if you have enough money.

 

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I use them to be able to recruit a big army fast.

 

[unmerged(11105)]

two comments about conscription centres:

1. in my first ever GC with Turkey I had a period of major revolt in the mid 1600s, from Orthodox provinces in the former Russian plains, from Shia provinces in former Persian provinces, and from Pagan provinces in India. I had plenty of income, but not enough available manpower to raise enough new troops to fight on three fronts, so was slowly losing control to rebel scum. I was saved by a Land Tech increase, and the building of conscription centres. With extra manpower available, in 5 years I had crushed the rebels, and was back on the way to world domination.

2. I currently play at speed 1 min = 2 months, without ever pausing. This forces me into more realistic strategic decision making, and less of the tactical wargaming decision making that you can get into when playing at a slower speed. At this speed I can't spend to long right-clicking on many small provinces to build troops, so normally position a few consription centres in key provinces around the world. I use these same provinces again and again and again to build troops.

 

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Originally posted by vandem
two comments about conscription centres:

1. in my first ever GC with Turkey I had a period of major revolt in the mid 1600s, from Orthodox provinces in the former Russian plains, from Shia provinces in former Persian provinces, and from Pagan provinces in India. I had plenty of income, but not enough available manpower to raise enough new troops to fight on three fronts, so was slowly losing control to rebel scum. I was saved by a Land Tech increase, and the building of conscription centres. With extra manpower available, in 5 years I had crushed the rebels, and was back on the way to world domination.

2. I currently play at speed 1 min = 2 months, without ever pausing. This forces me into more realistic strategic decision making, and less of the tactical wargaming decision making that you can get into when playing at a slower speed. At this speed I can't spend to long right-clicking on many small provinces to build troops, so normally position a few consription centres in key provinces around the world. I use these same provinces again and again and again to build troops.

For #2: You'll have trouble making AARs.

I don't think it's much more realistic when you play on 1 min = 2 months... The generals during that time-span weren't forced to make decisions in a hurry; they could take many days to decide what would be the greatest strategy to use. When a war lasts 30 years, it's not like if every minute counts...

 

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Originally posted by Patriote


For #2: You'll have trouble making AARs.

I don't think it's much more realistic when you play on 1 min = 2 months... The generals during that time-span weren't forced to make decisions in a hurry; they could take many days to decide what would be the greatest strategy to use. When a war lasts 30 years, it's not like if every minute counts...

I totally agree. I used to play like that too, until I realized it wasn´t more realistic that way after all. Now I play on the highest speed and pause a lot.

Oh, and I do build conscription centers.

 

[Carolus Rex]

Originally posted by Patriote


For #2: You'll have trouble making AARs.

I don't think it's much more realistic when you play on 1 min = 2 months... The generals during that time-span weren't forced to make decisions in a hurry; they could take many days to decide what would be the greatest strategy to use. When a war lasts 30 years, it's not like if every minute counts...

If one wants realism timewise, then u should play on the slowest of the settings in order to get as close to real time as possible.

 

[Nikolai II]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex


If one wants realism timewise, then u should play on the slowest of the settings in order to get as close to real time as possible.

It is also a great way to make historical mistakes, out of boredom and wanting something to happen

 

[unmerged(5503)]

Originally posted by vandem
2. I currently play at speed 1 min = 2 months, without ever pausing.

Interesting to read, how come that you started playing like that ?

 

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I originally started at a slower speed, but found

1. I was playing the game so slowly I was going to take many months to finish a GC.

2. I was "micro-managing" battles - endlessly splitting and rejoining units to get the best inf/cav/artillery mix for the next battle or seige. After reading other posts on the forum I decided to play EU as a strategy game - I would try to be the "gray eminence" behind the throne, rather than inhabiting the minds of every commander.

I took the idea about 1 min = 2 months, no pausing, from an AAR I read.

... and if I want my own mini-AAR I pause at the start of each new monarchs reign for 5 mins to write, otherwise I scribble notes as the clock keeps ticking .........

 

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Any AAR to read, based on this way of playing?

 

[PatMaster]

I use them as well. Quite handy if you want to mobilize fast.

 

[unmerged(10894)]

Conscription centers r great in any situation, from small province kingdoms to 100 or 200 or more. They also increase the manpower output of the province by about 5.

 

[unmerged(8576)]

Originally posted by Bocaj
Conscription centers r great in any situation, from small province kingdoms to 100 or 200 or more. They also increase the manpower output of the province by about 5.

I'm not sure, but I think it's by 10.

 

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it depends on the original output, like Moscow has 4 and it goes to 10, and Anglia goes from1 to 5.

 

[unmerged(8576)]

Originally posted by Bocaj
it depends on the original output, like Moscow has 4 and it goes to 10, and Anglia goes from1 to 5.

Oh. I haven't played for a loooong time. Why should I, when I have EU2?

 

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In NZ they don't have either, its soo annoying.

 

[unmerged(8576)]

Originally posted by Bocaj
In NZ they don't have either, its soo annoying.

I'm very sorry. Couldn't you order it though?