Does anyone switch away from Iqta nowadays?

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I used to switch to Admin Monarchy, but the new tax bonuses seem to make Iqta far superior to any of the normal monarchy types.
 

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Form Rûm or Mamluks, both are arguably superior.
 

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Iqtas are strong now, but they still suffer from having no consorts. I feel that when I'm playing an Iqta, I'm much more careful with disinheriting bad heirs because there are certain situations where this will result in a long regency.

If I was playing, I would stay an Iqta forever if I just wanted to enjoy the new features and already based my strategy on it by picking idea groups that further increase tax income from vassals. But in a normal game, I would switch.
 

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Vulnerability to regencies is still a mark against this government form
 

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Ok, thanks for the responses! I'm thinking of forming Arabia, which I understand switches to a Despotic Monarachy (and therefore removes the ability to be Iqta), and giving a Constitutional Monarchy a go. Has anyone played as one before? Are they any good?
 

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The main drawback of Constitutional Monarchy is the lower maximum absolutism. Dealing with Parliament is a little more annoying than dealing with the Noble estate too.
 

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Absolute monarchy is definitely superior to Iqta and most government forms, switching to that is pretty legit.
 

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The main drawback of Constitutional Monarchy is the lower maximum absolutism. Dealing with Parliament is a little more annoying than dealing with the Noble estate too.

Parliament has some good stuff and before absolutism it was at least worth considering if you wanted an extra missionary or something. Now, however, the cost is too large. Of the generic monarchies the default despotic monarchy is your best option. The +absolutism gives a little padding and -1 unrest and -10% unjustified demands are both useful (the -1 unrest consistently so). The unjustified demands stack so a nation going influence + despotic monarchy + having an NI for it will remove most of the "humanist DIP tax" on expansion.

Absolute monarchy is definitely superior to Iqta and most government forms, switching to that is pretty legit.

Doesn't exist after absolutism mechanic was introduced. You can get the 5% discipline as any government that can get to 100 absolutism, however.
 

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Parliament has some good stuff and before absolutism it was at least worth considering if you wanted an extra missionary or something. Now, however, the cost is too large. Of the generic monarchies the default despotic monarchy is your best option. The +absolutism gives a little padding and -1 unrest and -10% unjustified demands are both useful (the -1 unrest consistently so). The unjustified demands stack so a nation going influence + despotic monarchy + having an NI for it will remove most of the "humanist DIP tax" on expansion.



Doesn't exist after absolutism mechanic was introduced. You can get the 5% discipline as any government that can get to 100 absolutism, however.
by the way there was achivement for having absolute monarchy as commonwealth... how is it possible to claim now? do you need to revert patch or someting? :D
 

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by the way there was achivement for having absolute monarchy as commonwealth... how is it possible to claim now? do you need to revert patch or someting? :D

Nah, it requires you to be one of the others instead, administrative I think. I got it in 1.22 so definitely still possible.
 

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Parliament has some good stuff and before absolutism it was at least worth considering if you wanted an extra missionary or something. Now, however, the cost is too large. Of the generic monarchies the default despotic monarchy is your best option. The +absolutism gives a little padding and -1 unrest and -10% unjustified demands are both useful (the -1 unrest consistently so). The unjustified demands stack so a nation going influence + despotic monarchy + having an NI for it will remove most of the "humanist DIP tax" on expansion.



Doesn't exist after absolutism mechanic was introduced. You can get the 5% discipline as any government that can get to 100 absolutism, however.
Totally forgot. I guess enlightened despotism is one of the tops now. Of course it's only late game, so I guess then the Muslim governments are quite better.
 

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You can go through the disaster "Court and Country". If you go through that decade of rebellions without succumbing to their demands, you receive a country modifier called "Crushed local power" which gives you +20 maximum absolutism. Then, you can get 110% absolutism as a regular monarchy, or after the initial dip, become absolutist constitutional monarchy (so much for realism :p ).
 

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Ok, thanks for the responses! I'm thinking of forming Arabia, which I understand switches to a Despotic Monarachy (and therefore removes the ability to be Iqta), and giving a Constitutional Monarchy a go. Has anyone played as one before? Are they any good?
Arabia does not change your government form. Whatever you have going in is what you're going to have in the immediate future.
 

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A typical CaC will have 2 maybe 3 rebel stacks.
You are doing it wrong.
Interesting. In my last CaC I've encountered multiple "Leagues of [city name]" and something like "Unruly nobles of [province name]". None of these were dangerous, but eliminating them instantaneously didn't prevent more to come in the future. Nothing very dangerous, but kept me in peace for a decade. I have chosen the "send negotiators to tribunal" a few times, is that the reason?