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I have recently witnessed poor, low dev OPMs building current level forts. That made me wonder, how they could even afford that. For example a 4 dev OPM Algier having a new level 3 fort only a few years after they got released in a peacedeal.

So mainly out of interest: Does AI save the necessary money over a long time, take loans or just not actually pay for the forts?

Edit: I am not primarily talking about maintenance but about the cost for buidling the fort.
 
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AI often deletes forts because they can't afford them, I've seen many times PLC, Mamluks or even Ottomans only with lvl 1 fort in capital after losing wars.

Maybe AI take's loans to build one or they don't have other expenses like advisors, armies etc
 

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AI often deletes forts because they can't afford them, I've seen many times PLC, Mamluks or even Ottomans only with lvl 1 fort in capital after losing wars.

Maybe AI take's loans to build one or they don't have other expenses like advisors, armies etc
It seems you hadn't follow recent changes with 1.33... AI is now in fort crazziness.
 

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It seems you hadn't follow recent changes with 1.33... AI is now in fort crazziness.
That's other effect of 1.33 - because AI builds to many forts sometimes big countries can't afford them and don't delete just one but all of them. I remember game when Ottomans had over 20 forts, they won long war vs Mamluks and I was shocked because few years later didn't have any forts, only lvl 1 in capital.

Look at this France - lvl 1 fort in capital, lvl 2 forts in two provinces but HRE with lots of forts. At some point AI deleted all of their forts and isn't building new or upgrading even with stable economy - France has about 100 income and 50 balance
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I have recently witnessed poor, low dev OPMs building current level forts. That made me wonder, how they could even afford that. For example a 4 dev OPM Algier having a new level 3 fort only a few years after they got released in a peacedeal.

So mainly out of interest: Does AI save the necessary money over a long time, take loans or just not actually pay for the forts?

Edit: I am not primarily talking about maintenance but about the cost for buidling the fort.
That's a question with a simple answer: yes ^_^



From a random 10 years playthrough from 1610 bookmark

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And we can confirm that Austria indeed build a fort
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It's cool that AI has learned to build and demolish forts but it does get ridiculous when large nations dismantle all their fortifications and every OPM has a capital fort. Definitely needs some adjusting.
 
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It's cool that AI has learned to build and demolish forts but it does get ridiculous when large nations dismantle all their fortifications and every OPM has a capital fort. Definitely needs some adjusting.
Better than a patch or two ago where Constantinople was always a tier 1
I have recently witnessed poor, low dev OPMs building current level forts. That made me wonder, how they could even afford that. For example a 4 dev OPM Algier having a new level 3 fort only a few years after they got released in a peacedeal.

So mainly out of interest: Does AI save the necessary money over a long time, take loans or just not actually pay for the forts?

Edit: I am not primarily talking about maintenance but about the cost for buidling the fort.
They can take out loans, exploit dev, sell crownland, not build armies or hire advisors, to get enough for a lv2 fort, seeing as a lv3 is lv2+capital