Doctorine

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I for one hope that the AI is so much smarter that 'doctorines' are much less powerful and flexiable. I saw in a developers diary that certain doctorines can narrow the 'frontage' of your armour which will make them more effective in a Blitz attack (ie. they will likley be able to punch a hole in the front line and pourthrough to exploit it)

So now instead of haveing ther German AI research the mobility doctorine, they just choose the techs that cause the massed grouping of tanks etc...

And instead of the AI just throwing units at each other and org and combat bonuses sorting out that German will defeat France quickly you will have the German AI grouping units together and exploiting breakthroughs... where as the French AI will eventually try and 'headgehog' but be ultimatley destroyed by the lack of a mobile reserve... where as the 'smart' human player as France will research the historical doctorines (well not that smart then eh? ) but keep his tanks and mobile infantry in reserve so that he can defeat the German advance when his 'strong points' hedgehog.

After all the German advance was never a forgon conclusion, had it failed the French and UK would have (i personally think) taken to grouping their armour... but also maybe think about how to combat the Hedghog tactic?

This would create more flavour to the game where an Ai France would loose 99 times in a hundred, but if a Human France plays the stratergy well he can change his 'flexiable' doctorines after defeating the Germans in 1940 and be blitzing across the Russain steppe in a very French way

 

[peo]

I agree that I hope the AI can be more adaptive than in earlier incarnations. However one should remember that changing a doctrine usually comes first after having been in combat for a significant time.
Even many if not most of Germanys higher generals were against the "blitzkrieg" doctrine.
I hope that while possible to change doctrine it will take significant amounts of combat experience to do so.

 

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I agree that I hope the AI can be more adaptive than in earlier incarnations. However one should remember that changing a doctrine usually comes first after having been in combat for a significant time.
Even many if not most of Germanys higher generals were against the "blitzkrieg" doctrine.
I hope that while possible to change doctrine it will take significant amounts of combat experience to do so.

Well by the looks of the research it will be dependant on leadership, so that as you fight more battles (I hope) you will get more leadership so that you can change doctorines, but only with enough leadership.

So I as France manage after may months to repel the German advance, this will give me a leap in leadership that I then spend on grouping my armour together to counterattack

 

[bz249]

Well by the looks of the research it will be dependant on leadership, so that as you fight more battles (I hope) you will get more leadership so that you can change doctorines, but only with enough leadership.

So I as France manage after may months to repel the German advance, this will give me a leap in leadership that I then spend on grouping my armour together to counterattack

If you continue along the historical doctrines... than it most likely give you the historical equipment. Which is quite unsuitable for mobile reserves and dynamic counterattacks.

The French armors were heavy with a good punch, but they lacked the communication gear, the independent commander and gunner and were usually short legged. So even if you keep your mobile reserves, they should be very inefficient (they are not designed for that role).

 

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If you continue along the historical doctrines... than it most likely give you the historical equipment. Which is quite unsuitable for mobile reserves and dynamic counterattacks.

The French armors were heavy with a good punch, but they lacked the communication gear, the independent commander and gunner and were usually short legged. So even if you keep your mobile reserves, they should be very inefficient (they are not designed for that role).

Yes exactley but this is my point

After you experiance the German onslaught you can chose where to spend your 'leadership' points... and you can chose to group armour together or giver your tanks radios by chosing 'German' doctiorine techs...

After all if the French had repelled the Germans they would have picked up some German ideas no?

 

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Yes exactley but this is my point

After you experiance the German onslaught you can chose where to spend your 'leadership' points... and you can chose to group armour together or giver your tanks radios by chosing 'German' doctiorine techs...

After all if the French had repelled the Germans they would have picked up some German ideas no?

If you have repelled the Germans... means your doctrines are working. Why to change them to the inferior ones applied by defeated enemy?

 

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If you have repelled the Germans... means your doctrines are working. Why to change them to the inferior ones applied by defeated enemy?

Indeed... you would not take on the German doctroine as a whole, but take the good points from it... and try to counter your own tactics so that you will have more success... this is how doctorine works.

Take thew Americans their doctorine was based on manover and quick tanks of 1940, not knowing that the Germans had since changed their own defensive doctorine