Do you want to put forts at the border or one province in?
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Blocking one Province's road is fine, but blocking every Province around it as well is ridiculous.
If you want to make an impassable wall on your border, it should be seriously expensive... it should involve building forts in all the provinces. Too expensive? Doesn't matter. Either you can pay for that luxury or you can't.
There should also not be this breaching requirement to assault, either. There ought to be reason to want to keep funding forts in peacetime. You know, so that you don't get stomped by assaults constantly.
What I'm afraid of is that warfare will now become a matter of being channeled through your target's provinces (or channeling through their's), with hardly any maneuvering involved. The dance of armies that leads up to battle will be much more predictable, and probably favor whoever's got the larger force.
Where there event organize supply lines? Especially early in the game, an increased attrition penalty can represent forraging.
What's with all these people saying "I want carpet sieging back" anyway?
Because that is literally what you are saying when you say you want a fully invested beseiged fort to be bypassable.
Because that is literally what you are saying when you say you want a fully invested beseiged fort to be bypassable.
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Hordes being able to ignore ZoC would be nice, because while Carpet sieging is bad, carpet looting is the swag.
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Well yeah.... If have 30k troops laying about to just siege tier 1 forts, then I should. The fort block was done primarily to prevent stack wipes, now if I have to leave 1/3 of my army already parked on the first fort just to progress deeper in, and leave another half at the second fort, by the time I get to the army I've been following i'll probably get crushed. However, if I have 200k dude, I don't really want to take every fort by itself to push inland. Imaging how annoying sieging anatolia will be which is 3 provinces wide...
Um, no? You still can't occupy without taking the Fort. Making the Fort Zone of Control (not the Fort itself) bypassable would allow for you to outmaneuver the enemy when it comes to battle.
How do you handle army merges and army splits in this logic? What about 2 allied armies entering a province from different provinces and then one of them attaching itself to the other? Can it now cross over in the ZOC it did originally come from?
What if an army (lets call it Army 1) of 3 units and an Army 2 of 25 units enters a fort's province from its ZOC from two different provinces and I transfer 22 units from the Army 2 to Army 1? Can my Army 1 (now of 25 units) go back to the original province it came from and Army 2 (of only 3 units) go back to its original position? (effectively, I would have moved 22 units from one province to other by completely bypassing the fort ZOC mechanism). How are situations like these handled?
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