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Question is the thread name.

Questions is, who and as was...

Candidate atm is Byzantium.

Or is any such thing too deterministic?
 

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Well, as with almost everything with Byzantium, Revolution is optional depending on dynastic choices. Anyone who is interested I wish to point you to events 200157 / 200161 (the initialitzion event depending on earlier choices, mostly monarch naming and numbering issue...) and events 200168 - 200194 (dealing with the actual Revolution).
 

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Well, we could have a charismatic and crazy leader trying to recreate the roman empire.:)
 

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I had vague notions of such stuff for both UoK and UKR - Ukr got a small one and for UoK it was shelved (by me).

But Byz might be an option.. or hmm.. can we trigger events on VPs? Make a random event for 1780+ requiring VPs 500+ and stab -3 for a revolution?
Else size might work?
 

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Other countries I see as viable nations for the absolutist/aristocratic nation needed for such an event:
Bavaria (though it might need to have centralised the HRE some more to be absolutist enough)
UoK (I think it could become such a state, though neither Denmark nor Sweden never really got there)
Savoy/Brittany/Burgundy, though it would depend on how their path goes, a trader/reformed Savoy isn't really what I think is needed for such a revolt.
Hungary, could be a strong monarchy/aristocracy
Byz, as you came up with

I think all other nations would need to go out of whack so much for it to happen, it's hardly worth considering, though I might have missed some.
 

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[mutter] How would I love to have CK event engine for this... [/mutter]

event = {

id = XXXX
trigger = {
ai = no # AI don't need Revolutions. ;)
atwar = no # During wars, people are generally more unified
countrysize = 20 # Small country revolutions are not world shaking
NOT = { stability = 0 } # There has to be unhappiness
infra = 8 # Infra includes advances in laws and all that groundwork
domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 7 } # Revolution needs targets...
domestic = { type = centralization value = 6 } # Revolution needs targets...
domestic = { type = innovative value = 6 } # Obvious...
domestic = { type = serfdom value = 2 } # Free people don't revolt
NOT = { domestic = { type = serfdom value = 9 } } # Neither do too opressed
year = 1750
}
random = yes
name = "Revolution raises it's head..."
desc = "Blah blah about enlightened authors making critical literary works against the state and it sparking a revolution and blah blah"

action_a = {
name = "Crush this puny rebellion!"
command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
command = { type = revolt which = -2 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = 2 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 } # Is on negative already
}
action_b = {
name = "Give in to revolutionaries and reform"
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
command = { type = revolt value = -1 } # Some are always unhappy
command = { type = VP value = -100 } # Like fall of govt
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = -4 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -3 }
}
}
 

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That would be a nice randomevent but the questions is if we want one country going crazy. The more I think about it the more a total crazy byzantine empire restoration spree could be nice...

Bavaria is probably second.
 

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Hi everyone, I really love Aberration and I just saw this thread and had to add my two cents.

Since the mod is supposed to be less deterministic than the normal campaign, why not add the revolution event to all the potentially large and autocratic countries rather than just one? If more than one fulfills the conditions, it would simply be something like 1848 in real life.
 

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Hi everyone, I really love Aberration and I just saw this thread and had to add my two cents.

Since the mod is supposed to be less deterministic than the normal campaign, why not add the revolution event to all the potentially large and autocratic countries rather than just one? If more than one fulfills the conditions, it would simply be something like 1848 in real life.

I agree with this, would be really cool if multiple countries had a chance for it :)

Just need some parameteres that would trigger it etc. And maybe it could be a bit different for Byzantium.
 

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Well, this thread is a bit misleadingly named, it would be better as "Do we want something like Napoleon". :rolleyes:
 

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Byakhiam said:
Well, this thread is a bit misleadingly named, it would be better as "Do we want something like Napoleon". :rolleyes:

"Napoleon"? No.

A revolution, maybe.
 

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Well, for general revolutions as a random event, I have already put that one in the thread. Byza has it's own already.