Do 'unlucky' nations exist?

[wthree]

I'm trying to figure out whether there is such a thing as an 'unlucky' nation that uses hidden mechanics, and that it is possible to play as one.

I ask because I have been consistently losing battles in this play through despite having better, well, everything to the enemy. As in, I fight defensively after the enemy crosses a river, with a stack of 15 vs my stack of 20. I have higher moral, a better general and equal technology. I also have higher discipline (105% vs 100%). So why am I consistently losing? To win, I seem o have to outnumber them 2:1 with my superior troops. Though I've only noticed this on this playthrough, I have noticed something similar before where in a particular playthrough I will always lose battles against inferior troops/numbers.

 

[Panzerschiffe]

Army composition helps. What are you using?

Any outdated mercs in there?

 

[Alsark]

Yep... that happens to me, too. Yesterday I had 13 guys with full morale and three-star general get instantly stack-wiped while on the defense by a Timurid stack of about 25. Sure they had more numbers but it was ~1800, so my troop type was way better (I was Netherlands).

And fighting France is just ugh... I mean there they do have superior everything, but needing to outnumber them some 3 or 4 to 1 is insane.

 

[grumphie]

IIRC, combat modifiers like general stats and the liek now scale less extreme so stuff like pips and all now have less of an impact on the outcome of a battle. while they still are strong, numbers and other kinds of stats(discipline, morale ect.) now have a larger relative impact.

don't quote me on that though, could be wrong.

 

[anomalacaris]

Not really, the game do not actually cheat if you check numbers against formula.
So who exactly are you fighting (Unit models affect things a bit, as do combat ability)? Do you have enough cannons? How many cavalry? Nomad homeland bonus? How exactly are your general better (e.g. Shock is way more important early game)?

 

[happymix91]

Praise for Dice God.

 

[winsingtonIII]

Are you Western tech? Or are you using Eastern, Muslim, or other unit types? Though they have rebalanced units so all unit types are more on par with Western units, non-Western troops with still be somewhat weaker in the mid to late game.

 

[hauptman]

Pics or it didnt happen.

 

[Quantum_AI]

Yes unlucky nations do exist. If your relations fall to less than 200 with mighty Ulm you get a modifier called "Tough luck" that gives one stab hit every month and an immortal 0,0,0 monarch. Also your army turns to rebels.

 

[theosZA]

I ask because I have been consistently losing battles in this play through despite having better, well, everything to the enemy.

If you genuinely want to improve...

Take screenshots of a battle that you'd expect to win but lose instead. Post screenshots of at least the first fire phase and the first shock phase (i.e. the first two dice rolls) and the battle result summary plus as much other info as you can, e.g. tech level, ideas.

 

[G_Morgan]

Also your army turns to rebels.

So weaker than normal rebels?

 

[ahyangyi]

Yes unlucky nations do exist. If your relations fall to less than 200 with mighty Ulm you get a modifier called "Tough luck" that gives one stab hit every month and an immortal 0,0,0 monarch. Also your army turns to rebels.

Ah! That must be what happened to Russia in Time of Troubles.

 

[GeneralVonGelre]

I would consider Albania an unlucky nation

 

[Zqrfmb]

I would consider Albania an unlucky nation

What do you mean? they're lucky enough to have one of the greatest challenges associated with them.

 

[Sharples88]

I would consider Albania an unlucky nation

Damn it you stole my post of the day! >.<

 

[ahyangyi]

What do you mean? they're lucky enough to have one of the greatest challenges associated with them.

... isn't that the definition of unlucky?

 

[zorkman]

All the nations are unlucky except 10 of them, which is why I always turn them off.