do subs do anything at all?

[Valhallas Call]

I have had 70+ submarines convoy raiding in the Atlantic for 3 months and they have not sunk a single ship. Is this a known bug or am I doing something wrong?

 

[Amallric]

The devs fucked sub warfare up with an absurd design decision a couple versions ago. Since then, they have been useless.

 

[Tegetthoff]

The design decision being?

 

[Amallric]

Not you, I mean the AoD devs and the decision to include visibility or something to convoy raiding checks. Which is idiotic of course because no merchant ship had the speed to evade war vessels in this time(even submarines when surfaced) so even if the ships were sighted that could not save the convoy. Anyway the effect of that was that convoy raiding as a whole became useless.

However what is a bit sad is that you as CORE developpers still didn't address the issue(and it is known since the very first version of CORE for AoD).

 

[Meothar]

The best as Germany is to ignore the possibility of building submarines. Use the IC for useful things like armored divisions.

 

[Tegetthoff]

What settings could change this? Please be aware that in 1939/early 40 submarines should be inefficient. 1941/42 is a different matter....

 

[Amallric]

What settings could change this?

Maybe efficiency of the convoy raiding mission?

1941/42 is a different matter....

I don't know, what happens inbetween that changes convoy raiding so much? Increase in convoy raiding efficiency by techs is rather gradual as far as I know...

 

[Valhallas Call]

The best as Germany is to ignore the possibility of building submarines. Use the IC for useful things like armored divisions.

Blegh. After having 30 parallel runs going for 3 years after I researched the basic medium sub, haha oh well

Not you, I mean the AoD devs and the decision to include visibility or something to convoy raiding checks. Which is idiotic of course because no merchant ship had the speed to evade war vessels in this time(even submarines when surfaced) so even if the ships were sighted that could not save the convoy. Anyway the effect of that was that convoy raiding as a whole became useless.

However what is a bit sad is that you as CORE developpers still didn't address the issue(and it is known since the very first version of CORE for AoD).

So the problem is present in vanilla AoD as well?

 

[Amallric]

Its an AoD problem, subs with the same settings in CORE for arma are doing fine.

 

[Epaminondas]

Julie64 and Czarina Julie have some interesting ideas addressing the problem in this thread: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...arines-amp-Spotter-Planes-amp-Sea-Mines/page2