Do you recieve an income from pirates you
start? The manual seems to say yes, but I
don't see in on my income.
Thanks
start? The manual seems to say yes, but I
don't see in on my income.
Thanks
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Pirates you form, function the same as any onther pirates. The manual also says they may turn on you. 'Ain't' no maybe about it.
To answer your question; NO!
Lesson: Do NOT believe the manual!
They do have their uses .... I was getting tired of Spain landing troops trying to re-take Rio Grande etc under the ToT after I'd fought a long war to get them. Parking a few buccaneers just outside the harbour worked perfectly until I could grow the city and put up some nice walls ... they even turned around a fleet of 16 Spanish ships for me 
Like Owl, I too produce plenty of them while playing American Indians.
Nice shield against the Spanish, even if every pirate ship seems to be costing me 1 BB point (?).
And I never read the manual anyway (my Russian version did not have it in the first place)
Nice shield against the Spanish, even if every pirate ship seems to be costing me 1 BB point (?).
And I never read the manual anyway (my Russian version did not have it
in the first place)
Personally I think privateers are poorly implemented, but at least theres basic support...
For one reason or the other, I never seem to use them...There are enough of them already TMHO...
Privateers really do need improvement, but I think only Europeans should be able to 'commission' privateers. I'm quite sure letters of marque are a purely European phenomenon. (the Ottomans don't count as non-european, as their capitol is in europe)
Personally I think you should have a monthly income increase from 'loot' from Pirates you know where it says (-1 pirates)? that 1 ducat goes to you as trade income
For this though pirates would need 'nationality'
PROPOSAL:
Rebels need improvement too there should be 'religious fanatics' who won't attack co-religionists (ie if you're orthadox and your invading a country that just had an orthodox revolt, you can join the seige and take it over without a fight, and they count as troops on your side! )
Then there are Revolutionaries, who will fight everyone
Then there are Partisans, who have nationality (whomever the nationalism +3 is from) and won't fight their countrymen, and will actually assist them. Partisans are ONLY bad for you and your allies, they'll actually assist anyone else.
And finally, Heretics!
The good part is, 'rival' rebels will actually attack each other
Personally I think you should have a monthly income increase from 'loot' from Pirates
you know where it says (-1 pirates)? that 1 ducat goes to you as trade income For this though pirates would need 'nationality'
PROPOSAL:
Rebels need improvement too
there should be 'religious fanatics' who won't attack co-religionists (ie if you're orthadox and your invading a country that just had an orthodox revolt, you can join the seige and take it over without a fight, and they count as troops on your side! )Then there are Revolutionaries, who will fight everyone
Then there are Partisans, who have nationality (whomever the nationalism +3 is from) and won't fight their countrymen, and will actually assist them. Partisans are ONLY bad for you and your allies, they'll actually assist anyone else.
And finally, Heretics!
The good part is, 'rival' rebels will actually attack each other
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sticking with the pirates theme,
could they be a little less invulnerable?
they seem able to defeat far larger fleets very easily,
which is really not too accurate.
Heretic
could they be a little less invulnerable?
they seem able to defeat far larger fleets very easily,
which is really not too accurate.
Heretic
Originally posted by Mad King James
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PROPOSAL:
Rebels need improvement too
Then there are Revolutionaries, who will fight everyone
Then there are Partisans, who have nationality (whomever the nationalism +3 is from) and won't fight their countrymen, and will actually assist them. Partisans are ONLY bad for you and your allies, they'll actually assist anyone else.
And finally, Heretics!
The good part is, 'rival' rebels will actually attack each other
Nice proposals, MKJ.
Would be an improvement to the current situation.
Originally posted by Mad King James
Personally I think you should have a monthly income increase from 'loot' from Pirates
Rebels need improvement too
Then there are Revolutionaries, who will fight everyone
Then there are Partisans, who have nationality (whomever the nationalism +3 is from) and won't fight their countrymen, and will actually assist them. Partisans are ONLY bad for you and your allies, they'll actually assist anyone else.
And finally, Heretics!
The good part is, 'rival' rebels will actually attack each other
nice, esp the part about pirates - but OTOH who would spend 1BB for some single ducats? for the rebels i fear that would screw up the AI who has already problems managing sieges and troop movement. but great ideas for EU3!
Originally posted by Mad King James
Personally I think you should have a monthly income increase from 'loot' from Pirates
For this though pirates would need 'nationality'
1/2 ducat, should be your "cut".
And if you sink them all you'd get a CB against the
nationality, instead of maps like regular fleets.
(ie you have been caught)
Privateers were sometimes a good investment. Pirates much less so.
Then there are Revolutionaries, who will fight everyone
Then there are Partisans, who have nationality (whomever the nationalism +3 is from) and won't fight their countrymen, and will actually assist them. Partisans are ONLY bad for you and your allies, they'll actually assist anyone else.
And finally, Heretics!
The good part is, 'rival' rebels will actually attack each other
NAT vs. REB
Heretic.......
I think the strength of pirates is more to signify the difficulty of eradicating piracy than the specific pirate unit.
I think the strength of pirates is more to signify the difficulty of eradicating piracy than the specific pirate unit.
I don't remember where exactly, but somewhere I read that it was very difficult to eradicate piracy until you reach naval tech 25 soemthing. And after that pirates lose all the time. Like Shai said it has to dowith eradicating Piracy
The latest belief is that they start out around 19 and then stay about 3 tech levels below the leader.