Do Cuba, Jamaica, Puerto Rico satellites build Forts and Naval Bases?

[Nerva]

I'm planning on conquering the Caribbean from UK and Spain, then releasing satellites, but I'm wondering if I should build Forts and Naval Bases on the islands before releasing them. Would they be able to afford building them on their own, or should I do it before releasing them?

Also, do the Naval Bases of satellites count for my naval supply range? I think I read somewhere that they count for colonization range, which may be the same thing essentially...

 

[BootOnFace]

They definitely won't be able to afford to build their own. But I'm not entirely sure why you would care if they have them or not.

 

[Nerva]

My second question above is a potential reason. I know satellites extend the colonization range of their master, and I'm wondering if they extend the naval range as well -- that would be a reason to build Naval Bases all by itself.

I also just want to be generous to other democracies. And since they're my satellites, when I go to war, so do they, and I'd like to make it more difficult for my enemies to occupy them, and to encourage my satellites to build naval forces.

 

[austrianemporer]

Satellites extend colonial range? I did not know that, I know dominions and substates did but satellites?

 

[BootOnFace]

I guess it's worth a try.

 

[Nerva]

Satellites extend colonial range? I did not know that, I know dominions and substates did but satellites?

Sorry, I think I misremembered what I read on the wiki, which says, "Adjacency to a satellite state also counts." But it doesn't mention anything about satellites contributing to naval range.

I do find it strange that during wars, allied Naval Bases do not contribute to naval support range -- as if during WW1 the American Navy couldn't get supplies in Ireland and had to go back to New York for supplies.

 

[austrianemporer]

Sorry, I think I misremembered what I read on the wiki, which says, "Adjacency to a satellite state also counts." But it doesn't mention anything about satellites contributing to naval range.

I do find it strange that during wars, allied Naval Bases do not contribute to naval support range -- as if during WW1 the American Navy couldn't get supplies in Ireland and had to go back to New York for supplies.

Yeah, adjacency does work. Dominions don't give range than either, just adjacency.

 

[Nerva]

If I release those countries as satellites, they are civilized, but would they even have the tech to build Naval Bases and Forts?

 

[StanislavSoltys]

If I release those countries as satellites, they are civilized, but would they even have the tech to build Naval Bases and Forts?

They get the same tech you do.

 

[austrianemporer]

They get the same tech you do.

Are you sure?

I am not so sure about that.

 

[StanislavSoltys]

Are you sure?

I am not so sure about that.

In my experience, unless they're colonies in a primitive land (outside of Europe, America, and Australia), they do. Otherwise they're released as primitive, uncivilized nations.

 

[austrianemporer]

In my experience, unless they're colonies in a primitive land (outside of Europe, America, and Australia), they do. Otherwise they're released as primitive, uncivilized nations.

Okay, I thought you didn't include that primitive land and I know that nations can released uncivilized. I have not checked this...

 

[Nerva]

OK, so it sounds like they always either release as civilized with the same techs as the mother country, or uncivilized with a lot of catching up to do?

 

[austrianemporer]

OK, so it sounds like they always either release as civilized with the same techs as the mother country, or uncivilized with a lot of catching up to do?

Apparently. You should go check.

 

[Nerva]

OK, as USA I released Jamaica (after taking Caribbean Islands from UK in a war) and they have the exact same techs that USA did.

 

[austrianemporer]

OK, as USA I released Jamaica (after taking Caribbean Islands from UK in a war) and they have the exact same techs that USA did.

You learn something new every day!

 

[Shatterfury]

You learn something new every day!

That is the reason POD makes is so that when you release your African satellites they are uncivilised even if they can become westernised the second day.

 

[austrianemporer]

That is the reason POD makes is so that when you release your African satellites they are uncivilised even if they can become westernised the second day.

I know that unwesternized nations released by westernized nations get a metric ton of research points to spend on reforms.

Fair and balanced

 

[Nerva]

Indeed.