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Hello, I just want to create some statistics to see what regions the forum would like to see in the first DLC of 2018.

This year we have seen a lot of work in Asia, so I won't count them in the list.

I will make the next possible region division but, you can always add more.

  • India, Indochina and Indonesia
  • Africa
  • Eastern Europe (Balkans, Ruthenia, etc)
  • HRE
  • Western Europe (I mean Spain, Britannia, Ireland, France, Low Countries and Italy)
  • Colonial Nations (America and Oceania)
  • Other
So the idea is to order this list and if you want explain why and give some info about things you would like.
 

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1. Western Europe (Get rid of that Netherlands madness)
2. HRE (meaning revisit the 30 years war, make the HRE diverse and less blobby)
 

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1. India
India has not received any real attention since Art of War, and has a long and fairly well recorded history. It is also one of the few regions that decidedly lacks its own "flavor mechanic" (read as: HRE, Colonial Nation, Emperor of China) and could use a unique mechanic to spice up the area. It also needs to be designed in a way that the Europeans can serve as a late game shake-up to the local balance of power. The DLC could include mechanics both for the Indians, more religions in the area, and mechanics for Europeans and their Indian holdings.

2. HRE
HRE can always have more countries, and could always use more depth mechanically speaking to better represent how major and central it was to European politics. Austria also needs a face lift and would be a suitable candidate for a unique, diplomacy centered government form.

3. Western Europe
Most of Western Europe could use a face lift; it hasn't been touched in quite some time and France, Spain, and the Low Countries are in need to a face life to better reflect how they were at the time with the same care that the Ottomans and the Middle East have.

4. The Rest
The rest of the regions you listed could certainly use map updates, with more detail, nations, and ideas. But mechanically speaking I don't know the areas well enough to propose or think of a reason for their own unique mechanics warranting their own DLCs. I would love to see Africa get a unique mechanic (or several) if there was a historically plausible system that could be modeled, and I would like to see New World gameplay improved for both the Natives and the CNs, but I cannot think of anything major enough to require a dedicated DLC.
 

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Unsanctioned polls tend to get closed. But in the meanwhile...
1. New World (it's boring at the moment)
2. West and Central Africa (arguably the least developed area mechanically
3. Southeast Asia (Indochina, Malaysia, and Indonesia) (just kind of... flat, and it shouldn't be)
 

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I don't think it needs a DLC but I'd love to see a free-patch update to the Maghreb, the provinces there are ugly and need some serious rehshaping to be inline with the new Egyptian ones.
 

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1. India
India has not received any real attention since Art of War, and has a long and fairly well recorded history. It is also one of the few regions that decidedly lacks its own "flavor mechanic" (read as: HRE, Colonial Nation, Emperor of China) and could use a unique mechanic to spice up the area. It also needs to be designed in a way that the Europeans can serve as a late game shake-up to the local balance of power. The DLC could include mechanics both for the Indians, more religions in the area, and mechanics for Europeans and their Indian holdings.

2. HRE
HRE can always have more countries, and could always use more depth mechanically speaking to better represent how major and central it was to European politics. Austria also needs a face lift and would be a suitable candidate for a unique, diplomacy centered government form.

3. Western Europe
Most of Western Europe could use a face lift; it hasn't been touched in quite some time and France, Spain, and the Low Countries are in need to a face life to better reflect how they were at the time with the same care that the Ottomans and the Middle East have.

4. The Rest
The rest of the regions you listed could certainly use map updates, with more detail, nations, and ideas. But mechanically speaking I don't know the areas well enough to propose or think of a reason for their own unique mechanics warranting their own DLCs. I would love to see Africa get a unique mechanic (or several) if there was a historically plausible system that could be modeled, and I would like to see New World gameplay improved for both the Natives and the CNs, but I cannot think of anything major enough to require a dedicated DLC.

Basically this, would swap the order of 2 and 3. The only thing I would add is that some of the steppe hordes needs a bit more of their own identity, still CoC was a major step in the right direction.
I would say that 1-3 needs their own dedicated DLCs, while we could get minor "Lithuania" (What if you want Lithuania as your player country instead of Poland?), "Balkans" (I understand that there are some issues there left while everything around has been updated), and "Steppes/Central Asia" (More differentiation between Hordes, mechanisms that makes Crimea stay a march instead of the Ottos blobbing the whole steppe) patches.

EDIT:
Yes, and Maghreb too. Morocco, Tunis and the desert tribes shouldn't all have the same ideas.
 

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#1. ZoC
#2. ZoC
#3. Forts probably.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying they are entirely broken, but Fort rules are too convoluted. They could use a major overhaul in the style of Stellaris.
 
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1.25 free patch: Burgundy (with Switzerland, Savoy and low countries, Lotharingia in other words)
I know it's not very likely next patch is another free patch, but I think it should be because we had just 2 very small free patches this year. This would also work well as a prequel or possibly sequel to a France-Germany patch
1.26 DLC: France and Germany
1.27 Free patch Thalasocracies (Merchant republics, Aragon, possibly do balkan as part of this)
1.28 DLC South, southeast asia
1.29 Tartary (includes Ruthenia)

1.27 and 1.29 could easily change place

Honorable mentions:
Sahel/Africa
Baltic sea region (scandinavia, the orders and the commonwealth)
 

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Basically this, would swap the order of 2 and 3.
Originally, I actually had it in that order, but then changed it after I thought about it a bit. I feel that Austria needs love first in addition to the HRE, especially considering that Austria is currently the runt of the litter when it comes to great powers. They really need something working in their favor so they can adequately fight its competitors in the region
 

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