Seeing this thread's title, I thought the game had come out. Lawd, we're an amusing bunch. 
CYA.
CYA.
DLC thread? DLC thread.
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I'm not a DLC fan, yes I know it makes money and what not, but I'll probably just buy the mandatory expansions which I'm sure will come out in time (Divine Wind, etc), even just pre-ordering I feel like I'm throwing what little money I have away.
I'd very much like to see a revisiting and refining of the naval aspects of the game. More ship classes, or even sub-classes as ships within a class could vary a great deal in both size and armament. Perhaps a somewhat abstracted customized construction and upgrading of ships. Also closer historical representation of classes when it comes to for example combat ability and so on. Would be neat in my eyes.
There is an EU3 mod for that. Very fun and very good.
I would very much like upgraded colonisation mechanics. Just because it could be fun and awesome feeling how each ofyour colonies slowly grows and gets momentum and then some n00b founding father try and take it away from you.
Also I would like idea trees. I know paradox want the ideas to be linear, but you all know that you want trees.
My guess would be to take a look at what major gameplay aspects didn't see significant change from EU3, as I'd suspect they'd start there. Thus I agree with others that a colonization DLC would make sense, as well as (or perhaps combined with) an 'Americas' DLC. Beyond that, I could see a South Asia DLC, or a 'Governments' DLC, expanding internal politics (i.e. 'parliaments' can try to influence gov't decisions, etc.).
I doubt we'll see the timeline pushed back any further, as we already have CKII for that. It's more likely that we'll see it pushed forward, but since most games never make it that far, and because we now have March of the Eagles, it's less likely than it was for EUIII.
I hope Paradox instead spends time fleshing out existing aspects of the game, rather than wasting resources on expanding the timeline to areas covered better by other Pdox games.
I also hope we see nothing more about the moribund Roman Empire. There's already a release-day DLC for them, and they deserve no more. If you want to revive them, start in late CKII and shift the save game over.
I hope Paradox instead spends time fleshing out existing aspects of the game, rather than wasting resources on expanding the timeline to areas covered better by other Pdox games.
I also hope we see nothing more about the moribund Roman Empire. There's already a release-day DLC for them, and they deserve no more. If you want to revive them, start in late CKII and shift the save game over.
While the colonial system is good, I'd like some more flavour and flexibility in regards to it. Maybe the ability to institute a viceroyalty or trade company (name it too?
The vice-royalty is a grand idea. I think it would help lessen micromanaging. Having to click on a 50 provinces to build a temple a-la spanish empire sucks. Thats one of the great things about crusader kings 2 is the lack of micromanaging to manage your states.
I really think that before release is to early to be thinking about DLCs. I know that's not Paradox policy because they like getting extra money for certain things (and to be fair, it's things they could leave out and face relatively minor complaining) but I'm not ready to get into future possibilities until I've already played the base game, and I don't see how other folks can be. The only thing I really think we need at this point is a political map that doesn't look abysmal, and that's not something that should be charged extra for.
2. Planned, purple phoenix or something like that.
3. How is the converter inadequate? I guess there could be an event pack for resurgent pagans and things way down the line, but it's nowhere near a priority.
1. Already there in imported games with the aztec invasion.
2. Planned, purple phoenix or something like that.
3. How is the converter inadequate? I guess there could be an event pack for resurgent pagans and things way down the line, but it's nowhere near a priority.
You can get both, songs are made by song people and graphics by graphic people, while gameplay is made by gameplay design and code people. I don't care for aesthetic stuff much either, but they're apparently consistent money-makers. Which makes sense really, some people will pay a buck for a conpletion's sake and it's not really that big of an investment.
Now there's an aesthetic DLC I might actually want to buy (assuming it's good).
Hey, it works for Bay 12 Games.
While I love the system for this in Galactic Civilizations 2, I don't feel it's really appropriate to the scale and gameplay of Paradox games.
I like the multiple line system, actually. I don't think trees would add anything of value.
"DLC" is now commonly used to refer to any game content that you pay for, including expansions, which is mostly what I was hoping this thread would discuss.
Advance the timeline to 1835 and add some early industrialization events to even it out with the start of Victoria.
I'm not sure what version of CK2 you've got that allows you to play outside of Europe and the near east, but I definitely want it!
I agree with this, if they put in that, add a whole bunch of extra African and North American nations, formable unions and empires from CK2, (Iberia, Carolingia/Francia, Britannia). Sell it for 10-15 dollars on Steam. There's a DLC.
Yes, there are plenty of mods that do lots of things, that doesn't make them legitimate versions of the game. I'm sure we could make the engine into a very resource-intensive fractal generator, too, but that's not my point.
Also, I really dislike the CK2 gameplay that focuses on characters and vassal relations, it's not my cup of tea. I'd much rather see EU4 extended into that timeline to use its gameplay, regardless of whether the mechanics are fitting or not.
I'm curious of HOW they're going to apply DLC's, if they're using the same model as in CKII. Considering everything's already unlocked in EUIV.
Sorry - just had to jump in here. One of the reasons this is only around my 3rd ever pre-order purchase is because of the LOW price for what looks a quality product. Most of the other major games currently in pre-release on Steam are around double the price of EUIV, at least in the view Steam gives my part of the world.
[EDIT] Oh, and on the DLC, I have ALL of it for CKII - some on 75% off sales, some at release, depending on how interesting it looked - my choice of course, but happy with how it built on a very fine basic game.
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Agree here. I can't think of a game I've bought in the past year that was cheaper. Civ5 was at least $15 more in 2010, CoH2 was $70 this year, Simcity is on sale now for the same price as EU4 (after being out since March) and I just know something like Sims 4 next year will be ridiculous (as their prices were for Sims 3 and expansions).
My thoughts:
1. Go nuts on the aesthetic DLC. I won't buy it, but if it pays for patches and gameplay stuff I will buy, again, go nuts!
2. The first few big patches for CKII included more cool new stuff than any free patches for games I've ever played (including any Paradox game), so I hope this patch & DLC paradigm continues.
1. I do my best
2. Agreed - there were lots of new systems included in the patches that accompanied each major DLC release (though as always, some curmudgeons on the CKII boards carp about how little they felt was given away free).