DLC FRANCE !!? JOUR UN !

[atwix]

Instead of having a straight between Dover and Calais, can we just not have an option to build the "Eurotunnel" with a great project decision. Just like Kiel and Suez

why not a mission to fill in the north sea gap between Calais and dover? After all, the british isles were once part of the european Mainland LONG time ago. Problem would be that the mission would have to generate a new province during the campaign, which might be problematic in the code...

Not to mention entire Europe would probably have to be handed a shovel.

 

[QDI]

The strait will only weaken france, as england can join in on bashing 'm, while france still needs to defeat navy/siege two provinces to cross.

The two sides of the strait *will* have a fort, right?

With the current fort rules, wouldn't that allow an ennemy to walk straight past the fort in Calais cross the strait?

 

[Vaximillian]

With the current fort rules, wouldn't that allow an ennemy to walk straight past the fort in Calais cross the strait?

Indeed that would. A fort in London covering Kent and a fort in Calais is much more useful.

 

[atwix]

Indeed that would. A fort in London covering Kent and a fort in Calais is much more useful.

sigh.. no comment. Silly ZoC rules..

 

[Seelmeister]

Off topic posts deleted, this isn't the place to discuss modern political issues

 

[EvilFuzzyDoom]

Straight over the channel. RIP England...

Nah, they can still blockade while they control Calais.

 

[Oahkoah]

It's actually a DLC focused on Cornwall. No non-Cornish features.

Do the new pasty models come with the DLC or is it sold separate?

 

[ChildeR]

Nah, they can still blockade while they control Calais.

England can block the strait whether or not they control Calais. If they control Calais, France can't block them.

 

[maxolina]

Just one thing guys,

it's spelled STRAIT not STRAIGHT.

 

[perhje]

Just one thing guys,

it's spelled STRAIT not STRAIGHT.

Get it straight!

 

[Subbak]

Well, I'm glad I did BBB in 1.13 before diplo feedback (aka can't call Castille in against England) and now this strait which is the death of the "park your amry in scotland, only maintaining a smallish force to take the continental force and deal with naval invasions" strategy.

 

[raikaria]

Straight over the channel. RIP England...

You still need to kill the Navy unless you already control Kent.

 

[Oldpara]

Well, I'm glad I did BBB in 1.13 before diplo feedback (aka can't call Castille in against England) and now this strait which is the death of the "park your amry in scotland, only maintaining a smallish force to take the continental force and deal with naval invasions" strategy.

I did it in 1.14 and no big deal with favour system. I just conquered part of Provence first (to not let them slip into hands of Brittany, making Brittany unable to vassalize in one war), and then recoquered English owned cores alone with no help (but having Spain and Austria as allies in case of Burgundy attack).

But the fact, that England had to transport troops by ships with 15-18 stacks that I could easly intercept on landing and kill instantly helped a lot. With the strait in Calais when England will be able to send whole 30K doomstack not using ships it will be a lot harder.

 

[CoolSquid]

You still need to kill the Navy unless you already control Kent.

The AI *will* fail to maintain the blockade. The naval AI sucks.

 

[Wagonlitz]

Not sure if a Channel strait is a good idea, but it certainly gives England a big incentive to keep (and fortify?) Calais.

Its consistent at least.

 

[Milith]

The AI *will* fail to maintain the blockade. The naval AI sucks.

Maintaining blockades is the only thing the naval AI is decent at, that's exactly why they're adding straits.

The AI sucks at moving troops around by boat, it loves to land its army in the continent, 15 stack by 15 stack, getting wiped every single time before it has a chance to consolidate. A couple weeks ago I took Calais by myself as Holland with my 13 land force limit.

Now England will be able to easily bring its 35k stack and actually defend its land in continental Europe. You might be able to trick them into taking the strait crossing penalty but it's way better than the alternative.

 

[Politic Revolutionnaire]

Maintaining blockades is the only thing the naval AI is decent at, that's exactly why they're adding straits.

The AI sucks at moving troops around by boat, it loves to land its army in the continent, 15 stack by 15 stack, getting wiped every single time before it has a chance to consolidate. A couple weeks ago I took Calais by myself as Holland with my 13 land force limit.

Now England will be able to easily bring its 35k stack and actually defend its land in continental Europe.

They no longer have a 35 stack since 1.14 they have a smaller army than france 25 k with france 26 or so

 

[Milith]

I'll have to check once I'm back from work but I'm pretty sure their initial force limit is around 35, even though their initial army is at 25 or 26.

 

[Anthedon]

Won't England become a (weak) punching bag for France once the BBB inevitably takes Calais?

Straits are well and good when they are in regions where there's not a whole lot of activity (I like the ones in Indonesia/Papua New Guinea for example). But this one will have major gameplay implications.

 

[Me_]

And now we know that it's an Irish DLC, not a French one.