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RelVleDy

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According to the Wiki, "Divine blood is a mechanic that allows and encourages Zoroastrian & Messalian (Nestorian heresy) rulers to marry close relatives, including brother to sister and parents to children marriages, for a piety and opinion boost. Okay, cool, I already knew that, but then this is what blew me away: "To limit the effects of inbreeding, children born from a Zoroastrian incestuous marriages have:
  • 5 times less chances than normal to get the inbred trait.
  • but 5 times more chances than normal to get the lunatic trait
Wait, WHAT!? Okay, I need to test this, because it was the inbred trait that scared me away from having close relatives marry each other in the first place, despite good congenital traits between husband and wife (although, CKII+ changes the lunatic trait to make it just as bad as inbred, so I might still avoid it on CKII+).

My question is does this decrease in inbreeding also apply to the Messalian religion, or just Zeroastrians, as the Wiki says?
 
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Personally I've never seen Messalians, so I can't really tell, but I can tell that this chance to lower the possibility of Inbred trait is really strong - in all my games, I didn't have one Inbred Zoroastrian child.
And Lunatic trait also doesn't appear to be that common.
 

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Personally I've never seen Messalians, so I can't really tell, but I can tell that this chance to lower the possibility of Inbred trait is really strong - in all my games, I didn't have one Inbred Zoroastrian child.
And Lunatic trait also doesn't appear to be that common.

Yep, in all of my Zoroastrian games I have only had one divine blood character end up with the lunatic trait.
 

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Personally I've never seen Messalians

Although they often just convert to Islam. I have seen Messalian Emirs of Socotra. Messalian in game is a heresy of Nestorian. And the Emir of Socotra does indeed begin famously Nestorian. But because Nestorian has and often remains at such a low moral authority. Between that and Socotra changing and then rebelling or him just adopting it I have seen it down there.

No, it's also for the messalians.

I stand corrected thank you.
 
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