Perfect balance is generally considered impossible to achive and even undiserable in many cases. I say these techs are rather well done, they are not balanced because one of them tend to be a no brainer but which one it is differ.
Dispersed industry & Concentrated industry
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There's a couple of ways I could do it.
1) Convert everything over at once right now. I'd do this if I was comfortable with my stockpile or the timing of the war.
2) Convert half now. Convert half later (say in a few months) when I am satisfied with the level of production in converted factories.
3) Convert nothing now, but convert them all later. Wait until the stockpile is where I want, and then crash convert.
The goal with 1 and 3 is to get as much of a head start on producing new equipment as possible. With 2, I'm trying to smoothly convert over.
I wouldn't spend time converting one factory over at a time, but that's just because I'm lazy.
I wouldn't even convert from weapon I.
Weapon II costs 0.75 production vs 0.5 production amd 2 steel vs 3 steel. And gives me 9 attack vs 6.
Sure, if i have a huge surplus of steel and production, I'd take that bet. Otherwise, I get 50% more soft attack for a 50% increase in resource and production cost.
I'd rather have 50% more divisions on the ground and reap the benefits of a fully efficient concentrated industrial base.
For me, the clear breakimg point comes from two factors. Do i need my individual divisions to be better one to one or do i expect to get bombed. A Yes answer to either, and I go dispersed. Otherwise, i go concentrated.
Weapon II costs 0.75 production vs 0.5 production amd 2 steel vs 3 steel. And gives me 9 attack vs 6.
Sure, if i have a huge surplus of steel and production, I'd take that bet. Otherwise, I get 50% more soft attack for a 50% increase in resource and production cost.
I'd rather have 50% more divisions on the ground and reap the benefits of a fully efficient concentrated industrial base.
For me, the clear breakimg point comes from two factors. Do i need my individual divisions to be better one to one or do i expect to get bombed. A Yes answer to either, and I go dispersed. Otherwise, i go concentrated.
It is only a 50% soft attack increase if you division is pure infantry. Raw stats is much more important than %, weapon II is a 3 soft attack increase over weapon I.
when is the last time you actually looked at the stats?
its 0.6 for weapons2 and 0.7 for weapons3
I'll start with terms I'm familiar with : CF (C. factory), WF (war factory), SY (shipyard/dockyard), and BOZO (the generic enemy) .
A country starts with N* CFs, N* WFs, and maybe N* SYs, and you build up your economic muscles as you go .
I'd like to think that most folk spend '36 building CFs and maybe a WF or 3; while investing heavily into Tool-Time [Construction, Tools, and then decide concentrated or Disperced Industry; ASAP] . The Extraction and Synthetics lines can be done when the 3 majors of that year are done, and fit into your research slots .
So you have a bunch of States/Provinces with a number of slots to fill, and also have infrastructure to deal with, which helps speed up factories in building . Some countries have NFs to boost infrastructure, others grant CFs, WFs, and Russia has an EVACUATE 3 cities NF to keep in the wars .
By the time you have 3 working CF LINES (15 CFs/project) , you can begin to spread out into WFs , SYs, and non-factory productions (infrastructure, forts, etc.) as needed .
So by mid-'38 your backlogs for starting troops are erased, and basic production lines are put into place so that manpower meets equipment in division sized chunks .
As your CF numbers grow, WFs and SYs cannot be far behind; to add to older basic, CHEAP stuff, or to start on new projects : a plane [fighters first, then a bomber], tank, or a ship .
Given the 1.3.3(+) infrastructure patch, I'll toss an infra-build or 2 to the next state I want to drop factories in, as I fill up (3/4 slots) the high infra- states .
Usually Concentrated is my choice, but HOW CLOSE IS BOZO ?, killing units, to damage factories, and even taking the ground where the factories are .
In my Soviet game, I stayed with the ElCheapo Arms & Tractor Factory Co. until I had 10 CF lines, before I got into tanks; aircraft I rushed, and was in Berlin by mid '43 .
A country starts with N* CFs, N* WFs, and maybe N* SYs, and you build up your economic muscles as you go .
I'd like to think that most folk spend '36 building CFs and maybe a WF or 3; while investing heavily into Tool-Time [Construction, Tools, and then decide concentrated or Disperced Industry; ASAP] . The Extraction and Synthetics lines can be done when the 3 majors of that year are done, and fit into your research slots .
So you have a bunch of States/Provinces with a number of slots to fill, and also have infrastructure to deal with, which helps speed up factories in building . Some countries have NFs to boost infrastructure, others grant CFs, WFs, and Russia has an EVACUATE 3 cities NF to keep in the wars .
By the time you have 3 working CF LINES (15 CFs/project) , you can begin to spread out into WFs , SYs, and non-factory productions (infrastructure, forts, etc.) as needed .
So by mid-'38 your backlogs for starting troops are erased, and basic production lines are put into place so that manpower meets equipment in division sized chunks .
As your CF numbers grow, WFs and SYs cannot be far behind; to add to older basic, CHEAP stuff, or to start on new projects : a plane [fighters first, then a bomber], tank, or a ship .
Given the 1.3.3(+) infrastructure patch, I'll toss an infra-build or 2 to the next state I want to drop factories in, as I fill up (3/4 slots) the high infra- states .
Usually Concentrated is my choice, but HOW CLOSE IS BOZO ?, killing units, to damage factories, and even taking the ground where the factories are .
In my Soviet game, I stayed with the ElCheapo Arms & Tractor Factory Co. until I had 10 CF lines, before I got into tanks; aircraft I rushed, and was in Berlin by mid '43 .
Haha, apparently forever ago. Good. Upgrading makes much more sense now!
We here at ElCheapo Arms&Tractor understand the need for upgrades; We need to know when it is profitable to upgrade, and how much of Our current lines go to the new thing, and saving a 15 WF interwar weapons line for Our Beloved buy-a-thug NKVD boys .