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Norrefeldt said:
I don't think we should boost Russia. For all I care it can be a AI punching bag.


In that case Austria stands ready. As can be remembered from last session we even made a false start. We jumped the gun when we erronously believed that PJL had left the game.

So, now it is:

On your marks!
Ready!
Steady!
Gooooooo!

KJ, make sure we all know when we can start :D
 

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Daniel A said:
In that case Austria stands ready. As can be remembered from last session we even made a false start. We jumped the gun when we erronously believed that PJL had left the game.

So, now it is:

On your marks!
Ready!
Steady!
Gooooooo!

KJ, make sure we all know when we can start :D

19:15.
 

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King John said:

Fair enough although I still think we should distribute a maskirovka for the time-retarded that the session starts at 18.45 and they just might turn up in time.
 

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juv95hrn said:
Fair enough although I still think we should distribute a maskirovka for the time-retarded that the session starts at 18.45 and they just might turn up in time.


Wouldn't most of us just end up wasting time getting here "early"?:p
Inflation penalties are a tried and true method. A little late to enact for this session, but starting next week we could give 1-2 inflation whenever someone is more than 5 minutes late.
 

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vnet isn't working, so as soon as Fred shows up the IP will be quickly distributed.
Dago is going to sub Holland. Still haven't found a Russia.


EDIT: If I don't find a Russia, I don't think it's a good idea to let them go to the dogs. Don't you guys want to keep them in shape in case we find someone for next week?
 

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I boosted Russia's LT up to 24, and took off 20 inflation.
 

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*mutters something about the quirks in EU2*

Code:
event = {
	id = 3397
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME3397"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3397"
	style = 4
	
	date = { day = 30 month = september year = 1730 }

	action_a = { # Allow Ahmed III to be deposed.
		name = "ACTIONNAME3397A"
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 04089 }
	}
	action_b ={ # Crush revolt.
		name = "ACTIONNAME3397B"
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 4 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 04090 }
	}
}

Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 04089 }
	startdate = {
		day = 22
		month = august
		year = 1703
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1736
	}
	name = "Ah.med III"
	DIP = 8
	MIL = 5
	ADM = 9
	dormant = no
	remark = "Ushered in the Age of Tulips. Deposed 1730 (by event)."
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 04090 }
	startdate = {
		day = 1
		month = october
		year = 1730
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 13
		month = december
		year = 1754
	}
	name = "Mah.mud I"
	DIP = 2
	MIL = 6
	ADM = 4
	dormant = no
}
NOTE: deathdates do not matter, Monarchs get replaced when there's a new one that qualifies. Ergo, Ahmed got replaced on the first of October, if there was no Mahmud (or if he was slept by the event) he would live on until the next monarch [who happens to fit right after Mahmud I]
---

I chose option B, which *should* mean Ahmed remains, but he gets replaced because of how the game works: Mahmud took the throne on the first of October, since I couldn't pause before that (lag, reaction time etc), he would not have done so had I managed to get him slept on the 30th of September (per the event)


Easiest would be to just give Mah.mud I Ahmed III's stats (or copy paste, is fine too)

additionally, I already suffered the following "losses"


3+4*12+6=57 months ->
-57 investment to LT and NT (5-6=-1*57)
+285 investment to Infra and Trade (9-4=5*57)

additionally, better admin means Merchants have a better chance at staying alive and getting in, so I suggest rounding the reduction for LT and NT to -50, and increase infra and trade to +300 => LT, NT -50, Trade, Infra +300


Badboy FAQ said:
Badboy will also decrease after a certain amount of time dependant on your monarchs diplomatic skill.

X= decline each month
dip= diploskill of monarch
Y= number dependant on difficulty
240 for normal
360 for hard
480 for vhard

X=dip/Y

Dip difference: 6, so, I should lose 6/240*57=1.425 Badboy
 

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Bah!

France is still hopelessly retarded techwise although income is stable over 400/month and has nice infra and trade tech although not top notch. Maybe I'm just too big after all?

Anyway shame the session wasn't technically complete but we are all used to that. See you next wednesday.
 
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ForzaA said:
*mutters something about the quirks in EU2* ...

Forzaa appears to be right about the basics here. This event, that comes just one day before the crucial date of Oct 1, does not work for a non-host in a MP game. I'd say lag will almost always kill the effects of chosing alternative b). And if not lag then the need to read the event in case you have not prepared for it, and thus it is usually as bad for the host as well.

The date of the event should be put back 1 month or so. I consider it a bug for MP purposes and thus support Forzaa.
Although I have not checked the exact figures.
 

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By the way, today, much to my surprise I was informed by Dago that he was subbing me in this game, or so he was told (!) I don't recall ever signing up as a perm, and I apologize if I gave someone the impression that I could do so. Unfortunately, I have class between 17-18:15 so I couldn't make any session on time, therefore I would never sign on as a perm (although as always, if I'm available I'll be happy to sub when I get home). Just clearing things up so there's no confusion over my status, as I was a little confused myself earlier today.
 

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ForzaA said:
*mutters something about the quirks in EU2*

Code:
event = {
	id = 3397
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME3397"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3397"
	style = 4
	
	date = { day = 30 month = september year = 1730 }

	action_a = { # Allow Ahmed III to be deposed.
		name = "ACTIONNAME3397A"
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 04089 }
	}
	action_b ={ # Crush revolt.
		name = "ACTIONNAME3397B"
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 4 }
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 04090 }
	}
}

Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 04089 }
	startdate = {
		day = 22
		month = august
		year = 1703
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1736
	}
	name = "Ah.med III"
	DIP = 8
	MIL = 5
	ADM = 9
	dormant = no
	remark = "Ushered in the Age of Tulips. Deposed 1730 (by event)."
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 04090 }
	startdate = {
		day = 1
		month = october
		year = 1730
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 13
		month = december
		year = 1754
	}
	name = "Mah.mud I"
	DIP = 2
	MIL = 6
	ADM = 4
	dormant = no
}
NOTE: deathdates do not matter, Monarchs get replaced when there's a new one that qualifies. Ergo, Ahmed got replaced on the first of October, if there was no Mahmud (or if he was slept by the event) he would live on until the next monarch [who happens to fit right after Mahmud I]
---

I chose option B, which *should* mean Ahmed remains, but he gets replaced because of how the game works: Mahmud took the throne on the first of October, since I couldn't pause before that (lag, reaction time etc), he would not have done so had I managed to get him slept on the 30th of September (per the event)


Easiest would be to just give Mah.mud I Ahmed III's stats (or copy paste, is fine too)

additionally, I already suffered the following "losses"


3+4*12+6=57 months ->
-57 investment to LT and NT (5-6=-1*57)
+285 investment to Infra and Trade (9-4=5*57)

additionally, better admin means Merchants have a better chance at staying alive and getting in, so I suggest rounding the reduction for LT and NT to -50, and increase infra and trade to +300 => LT, NT -50, Trade, Infra +300




Dip difference: 6, so, I should lose 6/240*57=1.425 Badboy

The monarch's stats will be restored. But as for the rest, wouldn't it set a precedent for other edits like this whenever someone crashes and misses a couple years, edits that you might even call petty? If Spain crashed for a couple years, and lost say 20 income from lost merchants, that would amount to 240-480 ducats, which is as substantial as your losses. And on the other hand, you are missing out on the RR and revolts from the other event choice as well.
 

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Norrefeldt said:
stats. stats. stats! I want them!!

I'll do them later if noone else does.
 

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King John said:
The monarch's stats will be restored. But as for the rest, wouldn't it set a precedent for other edits like this whenever someone crashes and misses a couple years, edits that you might even call petty? If Spain crashed for a couple years, and lost say 20 income from lost merchants, that would amount to 240-480 ducats, which is as substantial as your losses. And on the other hand, you are missing out on the RR and revolts from the other event choice as well.

huh?

missing out on what RR and Revolts?

Mind you, I took option B to keep my good monarch, so I did get the RR and Revolts.

The problem is not that the event didn't fire because I wasn't there or anything, just that it "misfired" due to the date moving past the 30th of september.
 

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ForzaA said:
huh?

missing out on what RR and Revolts?

Mind you, I took option B to keep my good monarch, so I did get the RR and Revolts.

The problem is not that the event didn't fire because I wasn't there or anything, just that it "misfired" due to the date moving past the 30th of september.
Indeed Kj you need to read the event again, its a known bug.
 

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