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I hardly want to partition venice, I welcomed you as a friend. That you want me out of italy is understandable, but its a bad idea to tell a superior power you want to kick his ass out of lands he has held for over 100 years, or at least that is how I understood it. Don't take it personal I think you can do plenty with venice, and I do hope you will play them. There won't be any aggression from Portugal, why else would I sign MA and RM with you, not to mention venice received cash from porto last week?Revo said:This is interesting, my message is tooken as a threat and then i get threatened by half of europe then i get called a warmonger. Very interesting so basically i can't do much of anything i guess well there goes my will to playing this, have fun partitioning Venice.
For future reference, instead of just listing to one side of the story, maybe listen to another side before you draw the conclusion, OE is hardly impartial here... I hope you will reconsider and play, cause I am quite sure you can have fun. Just know the reason Prussia threathend you is because he is my vassal, and the reason England did is because I am his vassal, weather I like it or not....
devil said:I hardly want to partition venice, I welcomed you as a friend. That you want me out of italy is understandable, but its a bad idea to tell a superior power you want to kick his ass out of lands he has held for over 100 years, or at least that is how I understood it. Don't take it personal I think you can do plenty with venice, and I do hope you will play them. There won't be any aggression from Portugal, why else would I sign MA and RM with you, not to mention venice received cash from porto last week?
For future reference, instead of just listing to one side of the story, maybe listen to another side before you draw the conclusion, OE is hardly impartial here... I hope you will reconsider and play, cause I am quite sure you can have fun. Just know the reason Prussia threathend you is because he is my vassal, and the reason England did is because I am his vassal, weather I like it or not....
Now, now, dear Regent of Portugal, let's not try to mislead the new Doge of Venice
.It was about 50 years ago that Portugal stole Naples and Apulia from Venice, under the excuse he was liberating Pope. In the second war, about 20 years later, he indeed forced Venice to leave Rome, which is now Portuguese vassal, but did he reutrned Naples and Apulia?
As for OE beeing impartial, I only explained the past events and OE position now. The fact that Venice raised the question of Ionia didn't help, but the conclusion was OE still supports strong Venice in Italy, with Morea beeing a minor issue. It is up to Venice to chose sides.
Now now, dear corrupted sultan. Portugal has held those lands for nearly a 100 years, its true we liberated the pope 10 years after. Why should we return Naples and Apulia when the Doge gave us those lands for compensation of their vile actions against us and the italians, they had subjugated. All italians are treated as equals in Portugal unlike other nations ( hint: OE, slavedealers paradise ).Barnius said:Now, now, dear Regent of Portugal, let's not try to mislead the new Doge of Venice
It was about 50 years ago that Portugal stole Naples and Apulia from Venice, under the excuse he was liberating Pope. In the second war, about 20 years later, he indeed forced Venice to leave Rome, which is now Portuguese vassal, but did he reutrned Naples and Apulia?
As for OE beeing impartial, I only explained the past events and OE position now. The fact that Venice raised the question of Ionia didn't help, but the conclusion was OE still supports strong Venice in Italy, with Morea beeing a minor issue. It is up to Venice to chose sides.
OE is never impartial they prefer a conflict between Portugal and Venice so they can rip the rewards and take morea from its rightful owner venice.
devil said:
Now, now, dear greedy Regent, the peace in which Portugal "acquired" Naples and Apulia from Venice was signed in the evening of September 23, 1640, and Rome was taken in 1664. So, in average those lands are taken from Venice 53 years ago, which makes Sultan assessment excellent, and points out once again that the only diplomacy Portugal knows is the art of deception
Ottoman Empire, on the other hand, clearly and based on facts and honest approach to the new Doge on the scene, explained Sultans present position: Venice can chose sides, but the history was as it was, it is well known who Venetian enemies are and who Venetian protectors were.
Barnius said:
haha, we all know that aint exactly true, the OE is the most deceiving nation we ever encountered ( well maybe except for England, damn bastards
). Either way you are correct all know portugal is a good defender of venetians lands against the infidel turks that plague the balkans and south east med.
Ive been unabe to find a sub for myself. No detailed instructions from me other than to defend and try not to loose any good leaders. Devil wont be here so I hope england will keep my sub on the right track. Ill be here next week no problems. Sorry for this.
Domenicus Terra Pax
Prima Rex nondemocratus
The British Emperor has seen in a vision, that god has chosen him to be the supreme protector of all good christian values, and the protector of the divine peace among all christian nations. The Emperor will se it as his right to enter and declare wars if he feel that it is needed. If The emperor does his work as gods champion well, god has made some promises consering the future of the british empire and its ruler. Time will tell if he is the champion god seeks.
We laugh at the insane English King, consider the meuthen agreement broken. Portugal will reestablish its Kingdom asap.Flatus said:Domenicus Terra PaxPrima Rex nondemocratus
The British Emperor has seen in a vision, that god has chosen him to be the supreme protector of all good christian values, and the protector of the divine peace among all christian nations. The Emperor will se it as his right to enter and declare wars if he feel that it is needed. If The emperor does his work as gods champion well, god has made some promises consering the future of the british empire and its ruler. Time will tell if he is the champion god seeks.
Silence puny rebelstate, you will soon feel the divine power of god.devil said:
WHAT using my line now (nu har jeg cb mod dig i RL hehehehe, jeg nakker dig med the handmove)devil said:
Wee, pretty slow session with few wars and some players missing.
Good things is alot of manus were built, treasury was finally amassed and LT 41 is only months away.
Good things is alot of manus were built, treasury was finally amassed and LT 41 is only months away.
Slow, peaceful session.
Sweden built a navy and nothing much more. It's hard to keep up with the foremost technological nations but we what we can.
Sweden built a navy and nothing much more. It's hard to keep up with the foremost technological nations but we what we can.