Dishonor Before Death II; The Colonial Wars

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Elio Vasa subs Adam Breit

Not enough strong to join the roster, but I can play a country in MP games.
I dowloaded and tested the saved game, I downloaded and placed the 2 event files.
The Forum Bard expressed His intentions and Venice's economy guidelines or relationships. In this day He has sth more important to care: own health. I'll be at 19:30 CET in V-net. My ICQ # is in my sig.

 

[juv95hrn]

Red Phoenix asked to sub tonight if we need a standin.

 

[devil]

Red Phoenix asked to sub tonight if we need a standin.

oki, I havn't had any cancellations except adam, but you never know

 

[juv95hrn]

Lousy Swedish session. Denmark was peaced and Sweden entered into its alliance in exchange for Skåne. An early war to prevent Russian aggression versus Poland resulted in a WP. A second war versus Russia to protect Finnish lands from future Russian aggression was launched and waged somewhat more successfully but was ended in WP when Brandenburg launched a full scale invasion of Denmark. The war versus Brandenburg was successful until the entire Swedish army and some Danish forces was exterminated in Mecklenburg. Denmark lost Bremen in the peace with the treachereous Germans. Sweden is now set on peace and trading since war has proven unsuccessful as a means to glory. Sweden had 2 good random events, +0.25 MP and +250 naval investment, the rest were of more or less neutral or negative effect.

 

[ForzaA]

Sweden is now set on peace and trading since war has proven unsuccessful as a means to glory..

I wonder for how long..
ie. when's the next Swedish 'God'?

 

[devil]

STATS

 

[PJL]

Looks like the stats are already up!

Edit - beaten by Devil.

 

[devil]

Looks like the stats are already up!

Edit - beaten by Devil.

as always

 

[Fredrik82]

I wonder for how long..
ie. when's the next Swedish 'God'?

Gustav is soon here, well. in fifty years or something

 

[juv95hrn]

Gustav is soon here, well. in fifty years or something

Looking forward to this "God". "Next" is however an exaggeration since Sweden's best leaders so far were inferior to Russia's best one.

 

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A good session for the english empire indeed, the colonization of the new world, and the economic develoment of the empire, is going very well.

An english settler in alabama.

The English diplomats tried too make sure that wars were fought local and in short timespan, but as the Sultan in his long war against Spain, threatend the worldtrade, England had no other choice, than to join the war and try to end it quickly. England will go a great length to make sure that the economic and peacefull develoment of the world, isn´t stopped.

English troops trying too defend themself against the muslim hordes in alexandria. England lost the whole invasion force after the 3rd battle in Quattara, and had too flee from OE controled waters. The muslim invasion in spanish north africa was stopped though.

 

[devil]

lol nice pictures flatus, you are really owning Seen

 

[King John]

Good session! It was fun giving France and the OE a taste of their own medicine, and retaking some lost provs. It wasn't as much as we could've taken, of course.

This last OE-Austrian war should've been won, but for the stupid battle in Banat . At least 35k cavalry lost, and 10-15 warscore from battles in that and the retreat back to Vienna. Still have +22 warscore from battles alone, after Hungary's been retaken, but with no manpower the war is tough going.

The Sultan offers peace for a swap of Croatia and Dalmatia plus some money for the reformed provs in Hungary. Austria does not accept these terms though, as I'm in no hurry to relieve the OE of its minority religions. If this trade were for Pest, a catholic prov, maybe I'd jump for it. But it's not, so the offer is declined .

And the Emperor encourages the Sultan to increase his WE further. Perhaps the masses will rise up and overthrow the government? A civil war in the OE would seem appropriate, considering the disregard the current administration seems to have for the economy, with inflation soaring and no improvements in infrastructure=). If the Beys are consciencious of where this is leading, they will surely rise up and try to end the current war, at least.

To be perfectly honest, Croatia and Dalmatia aren't worth anything to Austria. They increase my stab costs and my tech costs, and pose a risk of making me waste a random manufactury event by putting a worthless goods manu in one of the provs. The only reason I'm continuing the war now is that it hurts the OE far worse than it does Austria, and that helps me more than gaining provinces. Heck, I don't even have any revolt risk in my country .

 

[ForzaA]

Why the hell is Russia the only one in the Muslim techgroup, whilst both Poland and OE are in Orthodox techgroup with the rest of Europe.

Now, I can understand it for Poland, since they had the Union only this session, but the OE, against who's techgroup in Souls of Iron (it being the same as that of the rest of Europe) some of you strongly protested, I have no clue :s

 

[K'shar]

Good session! It was fun giving France and the OE a taste of their own medicine, and retaking some lost provs. It wasn't as much as we could've taken, of course.

This last OE-Austrian war should've been won, but for the stupid battle in Banat . At least 35k cavalry lost, and 10-15 warscore from battles in that and the retreat back to Vienna. Still have +22 warscore from battles alone, after Hungary's been retaken, but with no manpower the war is tough going.

The Sultan offers peace for a swap of Croatia and Dalmatia plus some money for the reformed provs in Hungary. Austria does not accept these terms though, as I'm in no hurry to relieve the OE of its minority religions. If this trade were for Pest, a catholic prov, maybe I'd jump for it. But it's not, so the offer is declined .

And the Emperor encourages the Sultan to increase his WE further. Perhaps the masses will rise up and overthrow the government? A civil war in the OE would seem appropriate, considering the disregard the current administration seems to have for the economy, with inflation soaring and no improvements in infrastructure=). If the Beys are consciencious of where this is leading, they will surely rise up and try to end the current war, at least.

To be perfectly honest, Croatia and Dalmatia aren't worth anything to Austria. They increase my stab costs and my tech costs, and pose a risk of making me waste a random manufactury event by putting a worthless goods manu in one of the provs. The only reason I'm continuing the war now is that it hurts the OE far worse than it does Austria, and that helps me more than gaining provinces. Heck, I don't even have any revolt risk in my country .

Yes, truly all war is a taste of someones medicine . I promise to spare our audience from any Austrian style self-vindication come the victories of France .

 

[devil]

Why the hell is Russia the only one in the Muslim techgroup, whilst both Poland and OE are in Orthodox techgroup with the rest of Europe.

Now, I can understand it for Poland, since they had the Union only this session, but the OE, against who's techgroup in Souls of Iron (it being the same as that of the rest of Europe) some of you strongly protested, I have no clue :s

Ups that is actually my fault o

I made the changes to the scenario then forgot to update the rules list. OE will ofcource get muslim tech in the beys event, I actually made a new beys event just forgot to add it. o

But regarding Russia it is working as intended, you started with a tech boost, OE started with lower techs. You are on the right track tech is fine. I did consider moving Russia to orthodox when Peter comes, I just never decided on it. I have a feeling it will be a too huge boost. Either way whatever we decide to do with russia, we need to consider poland.

 

[juv95hrn]

Why the hell is Russia the only one in the Muslim techgroup, whilst both Poland and OE are in Orthodox techgroup with the rest of Europe.

Now, I can understand it for Poland, since they had the Union only this session, but the OE, against who's techgroup in Souls of Iron (it being the same as that of the rest of Europe) some of you strongly protested, I have no clue :s

I agree that OE and Russia should both be in a lower techgroup, I suppose Poland should be lowered to it eventually too.

 

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I agree that OE and Russia should both be in a lower techgroup, I suppose Poland should be lowered to it eventually too.

I dont see the logic. Someone please explain.

 

[devil]

I had a question today and I think it is relevant to all:

Is it allowed to have MA in another nations vassal to use the territory to attack the master of the Vassal?

Answer: No, he will have to dow the vassal to use the land...

 

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subbed Venice (1564-1587)

A Venice conquering all Italy is surely the result of the perm’s skills but also of the neighbours’ diplomacy. I tried to accomplish every perm’s instructions, but I hadn’t sincerely great leaders, explorers, monarches or conquistadores (I never saw favourite perms choosing Venice).
In domestic policy I developed land tech (1000d to reach liv 14, with a step for Offensive), adopted a more balanced religion relationships and placed merchants to raise the MI. The inflation grew enough (my incapacity in every MP game); some money was invested in legal consuls, colonization in Somalia, personal gifts and the conversion of Morea (besides 300d in two rates by diplomacy).
In foreign diplomacy I was vassal of Spain with no choice, trying to support the desires of the good friend Austria vs OE in Balcans and to maintain good relationships with France (RM) and with Portugal (RM). I think that the 1st war OE was surprised and ended it giving Morea to Venice; in the 2nd war he was more prepared with big chivalry armies and with no victory chances Venice accepted his generous WP offer (WS was -14 %): war costs already produced an automatic loan. Papal States were annexed after 27y vassalization and Tuscany became our vassal, while vassal Helvetia wasn’t annexed because of reformed; money offers to Portugal for buying Corse or Sardinia were more times refused. An expansion towards Wurtemberg or Baden was stopped by GM and unadviced by Austria; Tunisia, vassal of Spain, was immediately occupied by OE in his war vs Spain, then was captured by Algiers.
The pleasure of a MP game with strong players was restricted to few of them (and a steady GM, a curtsy); the colonization was almost nothing. I hope in no existing rancour in Fredrik or in King John, I don’t know them very much as reactions. I think Venice isn’t a major there and I’m curious about the game stats and the next sessions on the forum thread.
Happy game to all! Go Adam!.