Dishonor Before Death II; The Colonial Wars

[King John]

Two vital points require stating. One your ally was the first state to take advantage of your protective :wacko: "umbrella" of the HRE. Venice attacked those same states far earlier and when you saw that you had another excuse to hit on France again a year or two before frundsburg died you requested veneto to Dow France.

Two: Your diplomatic finesse so far consists of two things. Austria: "what are you doing". France: "taking Savoie as a penalty for their attack". Austria: "............" (silence). A turn or two later veneto attacks. Nice attempt to discuss matters kj. I also tried to talk to venice over the situation and he never responded. The international community doesn't buy Austria's farfetched excuses to its aggression. It is a simple as - when we have the slightest advantage attack without provocation. This form of power politics has been taking to heart in Paris , as we study the book - "The Duke" by Frundsburg intensly.

Venice and Austria did try to discuss matters, to as much extent as we figured it'd be effective. I know I asked you to peace Baden(the owner of Savoi), and that you said you would only do it after Venice peaced them. I wasn't going to say "peace them now or we'll declare war". That would've blown any element of surprise, but we did restate our terms right after the DOW.

You didn't accept them, and the rest is history. And yeah, it was a pretty slight advantage I had. Just Frunsburg having a few better stats and the DOTF title giving better morale. You still had cheaper troops and quite a bit higher mp and land support. And soon, it was going to get even worse for us after Frunsburg died, so that if we'd waited we might never have been able to push you out of the HRE and Savoy. Austria and Venice would've been on the defensive, as they are now, but in a much worse condition.

I think the rest of Europe can understand our concern. You said yourself you looked forward to meeting me on the field again now that Frunsburg is dead, because you know your strength is greater than mine . If it weren't for our earlier victories, the situation would look very dark indeed for us now.

 

[Norrefeldt]

I gotta love all the propaganda in here and all the wars and the resemblance of balance in Europe! Of course all my neighbours also are overpowered, extremely cunning and evil, all intent on my total destuction whereas I'm chanceless, a little puppydog with sad eyes.

Not to mention the unjust destiny heaped on the kingdom of Denmark! We are the innocent, immaculate child of the world with backstabbing and greedy neighbours, all out to get us. By the grace of God we might survive with a few provinces left, while all our enemies are over-powered by the devil and Spanish wealth.

 

[K'shar]

Well ......... I guess I can't disagree your take is a good synopsis on the truth of the matter .

 

[devil]

Heh, please people don't forget what happened in DBD1. Devil apparently used his propoganda to turn attention on other nations while he became an uber trader and ultimately the most powerful nation in the world. He's already the richest in this game, and has a deal to get more Italian islands from Spain. Wait til his trade tech improves more and he's got some Eastern cots under his palm. Then all the trader nations will really be in trouble, or at the ones that aren't in his pocket by that time .

no no Porto is a nice little nation that wants to share the new world, that we are trading is natural, we encourage others to do the same. But remember we have no MP, which means we have no power = no influence. OE was a whole other thing where I had 300 MP to back up the nation.

 

[Adam B.]

no no Porto is a nice little nation that wants to share the new world, that we are trading is natural, we encourage others to do the same. But remember we have no MP, which means we have no power = no influence. OE was a whole other thing where I had 300 MP to back up the nation.

You have money = Diplomatic influence.

 

[devil]

You have money = Diplomatic influence.

nah porto is no threath to anyone, a nice little puppy only trying to make a honest living.

 

[Adam B.]

nah porto is no threath to anyone, a nice little puppy only trying to make a honest living.

We wish her the best

 

[devil]

Current Roster:

1. Spain - Drake (ICQ: 280012044)
2. Austria - King John (ICQ: 225570338)
3. France - K'shar (ICQ: 299082577)
4. Ottoman Empire - Frederik (ICQ: 83278192)
5. Denmark - Norrefeldt (ICQ: 174373941)
6. Moskva/Russia - Forzaa (ICQ: 112746755)
7. Portugal - Devil (ICQ: 95526937)
8. Sweden - Juv95hrn (ICQ: 103632632)
9. Poland - Mulliman (ICQ: 119912415)
10. Venice/Holland - Adam (ICQ: 226082513)
11. Brandenburg/Prussia - Sander (ICQ: 198274019)
12. England - Flatus (ICQ: 114525886)
13. Holland - PJL (ICQ: 173370218)

GM: Devil
Host: Frederik82
Backuphost: Devil

 

[PJL]

STATS

You can download save there too, top of page. Bra and DK have been edited.

Nice stats, shame it doesn't actually show Holland in them

 

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1. Spain - Drake (ICQ: 280012044)
2. Austria - King John (ICQ: 225570338)
3. France - K'shar (ICQ: 299082577)
4. Ottoman Empire - Frederik (ICQ: 83278192)
5. Denmark - Norrefeldt (ICQ: 174373941)
6. Moskva/Russia - Forzaa (ICQ: 112746755)
7. Portugal - Devil (ICQ: 95526937)
8. Sweden - Juv95hrn (ICQ: 103632632)
9. Poland - Mulliman (ICQ: 119912415)
10. Venice/Holland - Adam (ICQ: 226082513)
11. Brandenburg/Prussia - Sander (ICQ: 198274019)
12. England - Flatus (ICQ: 114525886)
13. Holland - PJL (ICQ: 173370218)

GM: Devil
Host: Frederik82
Backuphost: Devil

Excuse me Devil? i thought brandi was mine until I say otherwise? Or utleast until the CET changes

 

[ForzaA]

nah porto is no threath to anyone, a nice little puppy only trying to make a honest living.

heh, I remember a Tom&Jerry episode with a "cute little dog"

 

[Adam B.]

Nice stats, shame it doesn't actually show Holland in them

Hehe, You are in my stats

http://www.slargos.se/forum/index.php?showtopic=371

 

[devil]

Nice stats, shame it doesn't actually show Holland in them

Ups sorry, I had added Holland instead of Netherlands: Updated stats

 

[devil]

Excuse me Devil? i thought brandi was mine until I say otherwise? Or utleast until the CET changes

I had promised Sander a spot before you, and he is willing to play the entire game, so easy choise. Sorry.

 

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I had promised Sander a spot before you, and he is willing to play the entire game, so easy choise. Sorry.

I see, so last season. When people actually begged me to participate in the other season and I said no because you yourself asked me very nicely and politly to take Brandinburg in this game. You told me that I can take it as a perm, and all I have to do is just show up for the next season. That brandi is mine, and in your words "everything will be find, just come to this season".

Well Devil, this is an act of the devil. you promise people one thing and you do a totally different thing. What will be your next request. You'll ask me to sell you my sole?

 

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[devil]

I see, so last season. When people actually begged me to participate in the other season and I said no because you yourself asked me very nicely and politly to take Brandinburg in this game. You told me that I can take it as a perm, and all I have to do is just show up for the next season. That brandi is mine, and in your words "everything will be find, just come to this season".

Well Devil, this is an act of the devil. you promise people one thing and you do a totally different thing. What will be your next request. You'll ask me to sell you my sole?

I said you could be perm if it went well. That you didn't bother to read the rules and that your where constantly whining, it just irritated me just too much. The fact I had promised sander a slot and he is a very reliable player from DBD1, I preferred him. This is my final decision, please respect it.

 

[Adam B.]

I discovered a strong flaw in the system .

Basically, every country without explorers ... will never get any.

*There are no random events for it.
*You don't get any random Explorers.

And the bigger problem is:

*You can't change maps before 1650.

Whislt:

*You can get Conquistadores by random event.

...

 

[Adam B.]

Diplo,

Very sorry you can't get a perm spot, but if you have to choose between someone who can play all sessions, and someone who can't, its really easy to choose as a GM.

 

[Adam B.]

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I hate it when ppl do that !