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Flatus said:
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danes landing in Memel, and defeating the puny prussians.
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Berlin under danish siege
Good to see a fellow picture lover like myself around here :D
 

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Treaty of some friggin' cold place the signatories want to get away from quickly

The Dutch Republic and the Empire of Russia have managed to resolve their differences and achieved an agreement over the matter of the Dutch holdings in Siberia:

§ 1 The Dutch Republic recognizes the Czar's right to rule all of Siberia and will cede its Siberian holdings to him.
§ 2 The peninsula of Kamchatka will be exempted from this. It is to be considered an own territory separate from the Russian dominion of Siberia and a rightful Dutch holding (this refers to the four provinces of Korfa, Palana, Sredny Hrebet and Kamcatka).
§ 3 Since letting reformed colonists become subjects of the Czar will hurt the Dutch Republic's credibility as Defender of the Reformed Faith, the Czar will pay the money needed to restore its reputation (i.e. Russia will pay the 1000 ducats the Netherlands need to reclaim DOTF)
§ 4 With our misunderstandings on this matter resolved, the Dutch Republic and the Empire of Russia feel no more hostility towards each other and desire to coexist in peace and to cooperate fruitfully in the future.

Signed,
Elisaveta, Empress of all Russians
Jacob von Zweiblum, advisor of the Czarina and chancellor of the Empire or Russia
 
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Twoflower said:
Treaty of some friggin' cold place the signatories want to get away from quickly

The Dutch Republic and the Empire of Russia have managed to resolve their differences and achieved an agreement over the matter of the Dutch holdings in Siberia:

§ 1 The Dutch Republic recognizes the Czar's right to rule all of Siberia and will cede its Siberian holdings to him.
§ 2 The peninsula of Kamchatka will be exempted from this. It is to be considered an own territory separate from the Russian dominion of Siberia and a rightful Dutch holding (this refers to the four provinces of Korfa, Palana, Sredny Hrebet and Kamcatka).
§ 3 Since letting reformed colonists become subjects of the Czar will hurt the Dutch Republic's credibility as Defender of the Reformed Faith, the Czar will pay the money needed to restore its reputation (i.e. Russia will pay the 1000 ducats the Netherlands need to reclaim DOTF)
§ 4 With our misunderstandings on this matter resolved, the Dutch Republic and the Empire of Russia feel no more hostility towards each other and desire to coexist in peace and to cooperate fruitfully in the future.

Signed,
Elisaveta, Empress of all Russians
Jacob von Zweiblum, advisor of the Czarina and chancellor of the Empire or Russia
Signed Seen, head of the Staten Generaal of the 7 United Dutch provinces

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You Greedy Netherlands !!!!

You demand 1000 Ducats from poor Russia :mad:.

You can mint that in 3 months !

We shall pay the russian Tsar 1000 Ducats for their inconvenience !
 

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Adam Breit said:
You Greedy Netherlands !!!!

You demand 1000 Ducats from poor Russia :mad:.

You can mint that in 3 months !

We shall pay the russian Tsar 1000 Ducats for their inconvenience !
I could again Reply the concern of the russian tsar for the dutch believability as defender of our faith. How would the reformed feel if there would be nothing that shows concern for their believs? You as fellow reformed should know better!
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Seen said:
I could again Reply the concern of the russian tsar for the dutch believability as defender of our faith. How would the reformed feel if there would be nothing that shows concern for their believs? You as fellow reformed should know better!
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Riiiight, You greedy Dutchies care only about money ! :(

You could pay it yourself and let the Russians just aknowledge the faith ! :(
 

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sweden lost 16warships and 23transports when england attacked asia while i was afk thus i request to have them edited back to me and placed in taiwan or joined with homefleet
 

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Adam Breit said:
Riiiight, You greedy Dutchies care only about money ! :(

You could pay it yourself and let the Russians just aknowledge the faith ! :(
Thats why I am protector of the Reformed and not you i guess
 

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The Treaty of Sankt Petersburg

Having been on the brink of war two times, and with new conflict arising after Sweden rejected the Russian candidate to the Swedish throne, the rulers of Sweden and Russia have realised that for the welfare of their countries it is best to settle some differences diplomatically rather than resolving them on the battlefield. Therefore their representatives have met in the Russian capital of St. Petersburg and finally agreed on this treaty that will ensure peace for several decades to come:

§ 1 The Kingdom of Sweden and the Empire of Russia promise and guarantee that they will not start a war against each other for the next 20 years.
§ 2 As sign of his desire for peace and goodwill towards Russia, the King of Sweden agrees to sell his possessions in Livonia, the provinces of Estland and Livland, to the Russian Empire for a sum of 1000 ducats.

Signed,
Elizaveta, Empress of all Russians
Jacob von Zweiblum, advisor to the Czarina and chancellor of the Empire of Russia
 

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Twoflower said:
The Treaty of Sankt Petersburg

Having been on the brink of war two times, and with new conflict arising after Sweden rejected the Russian candidate to the Swedish throne, the rulers of Sweden and Russia have realised that for the welfare of their countries it is best to settle some differences diplomatically rather than resolving them on the battlefield. Therefore their representatives have met in the Russian capital of St. Petersburg and finally agreed on this treaty that will ensure peace for several decades to come:

§ 1 The Kingdom of Sweden and the Empire of Russia promise and guarantee that they will not start a war against each other for the next 20 years.
§ 2 As sign of his desire for peace and goodwill towards Russia, the King of Sweden agrees to sell his possessions in Livonia, the provinces of Estland and Livland, to the Russian Empire for a sum of 1000 ducats.

Signed,
Elizaveta, Empress of all Russians
Jacob von Zweiblum, advisor to the Czarina and chancellor of the Empire of Russia


signed by the king of sweden(forgot my kings name)
 

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Errm yes Flatus, so why had I almost taken everything back and occupied Hinterpommern by the time Devil forced us to WP? If you hadn't "accepted" the WP the GM would have forced you to either way...

Initial Prussian military disasters comes from the fact I had way too much cavalry. Maybe this was because cavalry is expensive, and that's why I did not want to disband a lot of it, a bad mistake it now seems. After that Prussian defensive was limited by the fact that Prussia is about 6 or 7 provinces wide (from west to east), and that it because of the Danish occupation of Prussian cores only is 1 province high on some points (from north to south). This severely limits regrouping of armies, mainly since an enemy in the BB province behind rivers to the west and east can prevent any Prussian forces to merge.

Also, I wouldn't call assaulting small fortresses difficult; that's another problem for Prussia since it cannot afford heavy (read medium) fortifications in all provinces like Denmark. Thus any advance into Prussian territory is very easy and rapid. Lastly, Prussia's support limit sucks badly and fielding only 110k in a major war is not too impressive. Perhaps it does got manpower, but mercenaries coupled with money and a high support limit give a competetive edge.

I am still in disfavour of introducing a -3 stab rule by the way. If Denmark would have wanted to force-peace me, he should have occupied all of my cores (I think they are five), which he clearly failed to do. Prussia might not be able to be peaced by ordinary means (eg. Denmark would severely lose trade if I started to stab hit it), but peace can be artificially enforced (though strong resistance should be expected).
 
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Chaingun said:
Errm yes Flatus, so why had I almost taken everything back and occupied Hinterpommern by the time Devil forced us to WP?
Just a comment I suspect someone was funding Prussia heavily :D after inspecting the land unit graph.
 

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Chaingun said:
Of course, do you think that a nation with 60 monthly income would afford any kind of war?
hehe no :p I just noticed I couldn't recruit mercs, and your land graph slider when up and down really fast :D
 
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Chaingun said:
Errm yes Flatus, so why had I almost taken everything back and occupied Hinterpommern by the time Devil forced us to WP?

Because of the threat of france and russia joinning the war, danish troops were called back from the puny prussian battleground. (i couldn´t attack your troops hideing behind 60k of russian troops, for the attrition or the fact that he could enter the war). Seeing russian troops roaming across the polish steppes, and attacking polish rebs., that had danish support, denmark thought an russian attack was eminent. Yes u took hinterpommern, but not from me, the provins was on prussian loyal rebs´ hands.
And as u were the attacker, u should allso be gald that u only took one provins, how nice. Without the help of france and russia(or who ever gave u gold) u were toast.
Let us say this was an prussian victory, remember it, it will be the last one.
 
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