Dishonor Before Death I; The Trade Wars.

[unmerged(20561)]

Well im not going to get naughty, and bitch about the lameness that happend in this session, though my head was red of madness and steam was farting out of my ears.

M8´s im not going to play next session, im visiting my dear friend the sultan in Turkey. The sultan has conveted to protestantism for one week, so he may drink some alkoholic drinks with his dear danish m8. Have fun.. be naughty, and may the danish "empire" grow while i get drunk in the name of diplomacy. :rofl:

 

[devil]

Well im not going to get naughty, and bitch about the lameness that happend in this session, though my head was red of madness and steam was farting out of my ears.

M8´s im not going to play next session, im visiting my dear friend the sultan in Turkey. The sultan has conveted to protestantism for one week, so he may drink some alkoholic drinks with his dear danish m8. Have fun.. be naughty, and may the danish "empire" grow while i get drunk in the name of diplomacy. :rofl:

Good Trip to Turkey

 

[juv95hrn]

Spain regained Liguria and Bearn from France and Florida from England. Excepts for that nothing important happened. A manufactory burnt down but a deflation event is great compensation for that.
Spains income isnt raising at all but luckily its rather high as it is.

 

[Seen]

Well, We, the Staten Generaal (where is that AAR thread ),

Had a wonderfull session. We were subbed by some lousy nothing meaning , unemportant sub (which we thank with all or harts ) called Stadholder, which we as the people first thing declaired foid. Then preperations started to punish the country that hyperteched it way into two WPs with NL. We all know that is porto who failed at the EK, which this team didt do THAT bad :

Of course we won this war (reducing the porto fleet by 50percent), but some really weird thing happend during the war, Russia started to offer a "sale" of syberia, which it alone of course couldnt colonise...so let the poor dutch do it? We said we would think about it after the war with porto, which was still going on. What did they do? Repeated the offer (in the middle of a major battle at Ganges) and then dowed! We didnt expect nothing more from russian honour less scum, no thank you no nothing!. But of course most of there troops died from attrition, all there ports are blocked atm and they lost till now all Landbattles that have occured (all 4...). We hope a russian diplomat will reach or Staten generaal with a very reasonable peaceoffer!

Directions:
You ask a very nice lady directions ,

. She says you have to go left to that bar, walk 250 yards, then go right, go on a bit, crossing go left 100 yards, and near a coffeeshop

go left. and there you are, the Dutch parlement. Even for a rus thats not to hard to find (we educated you ruler Peter the Great btw...., in the building right of the coffeeshop)....

PS: trying to become EU2 king of nice Pics

 

[arcorelli]

PS: trying to become EU2 king of nice Pics

You are advancing at a quite good pace to reach that title, IMHO

 

[Seen]

Edit

Please make the following edit:

(812) Kauai from france to NL (darn bugs)

 

[devil]

Please make the following edit:

(812) Kauai from france to NL (darn bugs)

oki

Sweden: Drake this might be relevant

RULES:-If you are vassalised, be that via event or war. You are forced to stay so in 20 years. Then dow and fight for freedom.

Russia:
I still haven't heard from Rezag, anyone heard from him?

 

[Seen]

oki

Thnx

Russia:
I still haven't heard from Rezag, anyone heard from him?

No, if so, direct him to me, there still is a weird thing called war between us...

Where are you eco stats dev?

 

[devil]

Thnx



No, if so, direct him to me, there still is a weird thing called war between us...

Where are you eco stats dev?

later, going to see a movie now

 

[admiral drake]

oki

Sweden: Drake this might be relevant


Russia:
I still haven't heard from Rezag, anyone heard from him?

ugh crap it was a damn mistake took it in a hurry

 

[Twoflower]

But of course most of there troops died from attrition, all there ports are blocked atm and they lost till now all Landbattles that have occured (all 4...). We hope a russian diplomat will reach or Staten generaal with a very reasonable peaceoffer!

Alright, as her majesty Elizaveta I (we are stunned about such rudeness and ignorance in the Dutch republic) is still in her datcha in Crimea and busy sailing and eating caviar, her Estonian advisor Jacob von Zweiblum will adress this.
Know that by virtue of the Treaty of Nerchiinsk and of our divine right to rule all of Siberia, the Dutch presence in Eastern Siberia is to be considered an unlawful occupation of Russian soil that has merely been tolerated, not accepted by the generations before us, and is a grievance and insult to the Russian people. The great nation of Russia wishes to finally free this part of its eternal, indivisible body from Dutch captivity. Like the stadhouder would not want the Czar to own his right arm, Russia does not want another country to own an integral part of Russian Siberia.
Therefore we most humbly ask the Dutch Republic to cede these provinces to Russia in order to make the Russian body complete. The money paid to you would be a compensation for your efforts in developing this area. We would also guarantee the civil and religious integrity of all Dutch people living there. However, no matter which propaganda you may spread about the events of this war, it is a fact that in the long run the Dutch Republic is unable to defend these territories. You can expect more determined efforts to conquer these lands soon, and even with your naval expeditions you ultimately do not have the capacity to provide enough troops to prevent it - which is because these provinces are a natural part of Russian Siberia and are most easy to reach from Russian Siberia.
Russia does not wish to fight the Dutch Republic, but it cannot tolerate the current occupation of its own soil anymore.

 

[Seen]

Alright, as her majesty Elizaveta I (we are stunned about such rudeness and ignorance in the Dutch republic) is still in her datcha in Crimea and busy sailing and eating caviar, her Estonian advisor Jacob von Zweiblum will adress this.
Know that by virtue of the Treaty of Nerchiinsk and of our divine right to rule all of Siberia, the Dutch presence in Eastern Siberia is to be considered an unlawful occupation of Russian soil that has merely been tolerated, not accepted by the generations before us, and is a grievance and insult to the Russian people. The great nation of Russia wishes to finally free this part of its eternal, indivisible body from Dutch captivity. Like the stadhouder would not want the Czar to own his right arm, Russia does not want another country to own an integral part of Russian Siberia.
Therefore we most humbly ask the Dutch Republic to cede these provinces to Russia in order to make the Russian body complete. The money paid to you would be a compensation for your efforts in developing this area. We would also guarantee the civil and religious integrity of all Dutch people living there. However, no matter which propaganda you may spread about the events of this war, it is a fact that in the long run the Dutch Republic is unable to defend these territories. You can expect more determined efforts to conquer these lands soon, and even with your naval expeditions you ultimately do not have the capacity to provide enough troops to prevent it - which is because these provinces are a natural part of Russian Siberia and are most easy to reach from Russian Siberia.
Russia does not wish to fight the Dutch Republic, but it cannot tolerate the current occupation of its own soil anymore.

Me as one of the first history students of the Leiden university founded in 1575 know well that in one future image you russians occupied Syberia. Nonetheless you , and the Dutch brave explorers knew about this territory from 1600 already, did nothing which would give you right to claim that territory! We have seen no cores, wenn the colony's were not fully delvoloped no demands or claims! You used us and we dont like that. If you were truly claiming those territories you would have honourably colonised them yourself with russian orthodox colonist. What is the case? You colonist were scared of the harsh climate, Dutch colonist saw opportunities!

Your claims arent based on anything, except alternate history. We of course look for peace, but claiming dutch reformed colonised land which you did nothing for is redicoulous! My ally supports me fully on this, and i can imagine you dont want them as a enemy. Even the dutch might think of beginning grand scale support for enemy's of the russian people. We dont want that now of course, but with your current demands you force us in doing so. I advice the tsar to think about this, and think about it very good. The dutch are small, but We can help others to ...pursuade you ...No theard ment here, just a fact. Your agression was ill placed (i was in a war, you began threating me!! ) But , nephew of the tsar, we , the staten generaal will wait for the true tsar of russia and hope he has more understanding of claims and tribute, which we , the dutch , honouralby , even with the fact you have no legal claims, offered!

Signed,

Seen, Head of the Staten Generaal of the Republic

 

[devil]

Alright, as her majesty Elizaveta I (we are stunned about such rudeness and ignorance in the Dutch republic) is still in her datcha in Crimea and busy sailing and eating caviar, her Estonian advisor Jacob von Zweiblum will adress this.
Know that by virtue of the Treaty of Nerchiinsk and of our divine right to rule all of Siberia, the Dutch presence in Eastern Siberia is to be considered an unlawful occupation of Russian soil that has merely been tolerated, not accepted by the generations before us, and is a grievance and insult to the Russian people. The great nation of Russia wishes to finally free this part of its eternal, indivisible body from Dutch captivity. Like the stadhouder would not want the Czar to own his right arm, Russia does not want another country to own an integral part of Russian Siberia.
Therefore we most humbly ask the Dutch Republic to cede these provinces to Russia in order to make the Russian body complete. The money paid to you would be a compensation for your efforts in developing this area. We would also guarantee the civil and religious integrity of all Dutch people living there. However, no matter which propaganda you may spread about the events of this war, it is a fact that in the long run the Dutch Republic is unable to defend these territories. You can expect more determined efforts to conquer these lands soon, and even with your naval expeditions you ultimately do not have the capacity to provide enough troops to prevent it - which is because these provinces are a natural part of Russian Siberia and are most easy to reach from Russian Siberia.
Russia does not wish to fight the Dutch Republic, but it cannot tolerate the current occupation of its own soil anymore.

As the Dutch have decided to call France to protect its unlawful holdings. The Sultan will now express his support of his Russian Friend on this issue, clearly Siberia is destined for Russians not greedy Dutch.

Maybe the Issue can be decided with whoever sinks the others navy first, we suggest OE vs. Dutch navy to settle the issue.

 

[Seen]

As the Dutch have decided to call France to protect its unlawful holdings. The Sultan will now express his support of his Russian Friend on this issue, clearly Siberia is destined for Russians not greedy Dutch.

Maybe the Issue can be decided with whoever sinks the others navy first, we suggest OE vs. Dutch navy to settle the issue.

OE is medeling in european issues most stop! Easy for you to say as your Army and Fleet are tripple of the dutch! Congrats on your researchers, but its not fair to express support on a agressior, and not realistic either, since russia has been you nondeclaired enemy for many generations!

PS: new thread somewhere..."stop ubbernations dominating the game"? if so, give me the link....

 

[Rezag]

oki
Russia:
I still haven't heard from Rezag, anyone heard from him?

Sorry got personal issues to take care off and been to busy to get on net so sorry. But this allso means I cant continue to play on wedenessdays as I will have to be away atleast the first hour of game from now on as I will be leading group of boy scouts on wednessday.

 

[devil]

OE is medeling in european issues most stop! Easy for you to say as your Army and Fleet are tripple of the dutch! Congrats on your researchers, but its not fair to express support on a agressior, and not realistic either, since russia has been you nondeclaired enemy for many generations!

PS: new thread somewhere..."stop ubbernations dominating the game"? if so, give me the link....

The aggressor is clearly the Dutch, Siberia was claimed by the Russians in 1580. The Otto's have allways respected that. We have always acted as friends to Mother Russia, since the demise of Tzar Pibe

I think its clear to say OE is russias best friend, while prussia is russias most backstabbing friend!

 

[devil]

Sorry got personal issues to take care off and been to busy to get on net so sorry. But this allso means I cant continue to play on wedenessdays as I will have to be away atleast the first hour of game from now on as I will be leading group of boy scouts on wednessday.

OK Rezag good luck with that

After talking with twoflower, he is now assigned as the new ruler of Russia.

Welcome aboard.

Nick: Twoflower, ICQ: 166-378-883

 

[Adam B.]

Treaty of the lost Ducat.​

After the 30 years war over Shanghai, Sweden finally accepts to cede the 2 Chinese provinces to england.

15.000 Ducats will be transferred to the Swedish king.​

Signed, The English Lord Protector.

 

[admiral drake]

Treaty of the lost Ducat.​

After the 30 years war over Shanghai, Sweden finally accepts to cede the 2 Chinese provinces to england.

15.000 Ducats will be transferred to the Swedish king.​

Signed, The English Lord Protector.

signed by king of sweden

 

[unmerged(20561)]

...but its not fair to express support on a agressior, and not realistic either....

Well get used to it seen, in the last 2 wars denmark has been in (were denmark wasn´t the agressior), others (England, France and Russia) has supported the agressior against the defending danes. How can that be fair?

Though denmark was the defending part of the last war, the Danish king wanted to set an example of what could happen to prussia, did they not stop the warmogering. The danish victory in the battle at mecklemburg, and the the danish conquering of magdeburg and hannover the following mounths, was just a taste of what the danish troops could do. Later in the battle of memel the danish defenders ones again won a grand victory, and the puny prussian lost 60% of the eastern standing arme.

danes landing in Memel, and defeating the puny prussians.


The danish arme in memel followed the retreating prussian troops and in the 1st battle of Masovia the prussians ones more was defeated. Denmark was now siegeing berlin, prussia and masovia. The puny prussians made an attempt, with an rebuild eastern arme, to lift the danish siege in prussia, but the danish troops defeated them ones more, and 4 weeks later destroyed the whole prussian eastern arme in the 2nd battle of masovia. Soon after the total danish victory in poland, the danes conquerd all from prussia and masovia to the oderriver (only kurstin stod against the danish eastern armes).

Berlin under danish siege

Now the danish king believed that the prussians had got their lession, and the danish king made diplomatic attempts to end the war. Though the king only wanted one prov. from prussia, as compensation for prussian warmongering, Russia and France treathend to enter the war on the side of the warmongering prussians, denmark had no chance of getting an honorable peacetreaty signed, and had to go for white peace.