Any chance of an Eastern European faces (or regional faces in general) DLC in the future?
Discussing the DLC
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but um, they look the same? really youd have to go to ethiopia or mauretania or further to find people who look different enough for another faces DLC, otherwise itd just be hats and beards or something small like that not a whole new culture graphics set
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That could definitely happen. I'd love to do a scandinavian one some day as well.
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Different accesoaries, different hairstyles, and generally different features. Not that I'm against Ethiopian DLC or any other facial DLC. My official stance is moar faces.
I prefer a Bicheto one
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I hate that sunglass DLC discussions have become the main interest point on this forum, think its probably one of the bad side effects of recent mainstream "success".
BTW, the time of developers spent in this thread would easily have been enough to research all dynasty CoAs in Europe and get them in the main game. So lets blame us from now on. :-D
Mongol Faces DLC?
I have never been fond of Day 1 DLCs, but something as basic as the mongolian race and face is supposed to be downloaded (and bought unless you preorder) as a DLC?
And even a Dynastic shield DLC?, well I thought Paradox was actually going to add the historical shields to the famous families in the start dates in a free manner, not as a DLC.
It's not that I'm not going to buy it, but hell, I feel like I'm getting scammed if such basic things are considered DLC. These small things should already be in the full game which costs 40€ already.
What I consider to be DLC are full on modifications to the very way you play the games, such as a "Muslims & Pagans" DLC or something of that sort, not some cosmetic content that everybody feels it should already be in the game itself. I'd like to ask Paradox to give us real DLCs, not this kind of things.
I have never been fond of Day 1 DLCs, but something as basic as the mongolian race and face is supposed to be downloaded (and bought unless you preorder) as a DLC?
And even a Dynastic shield DLC?, well I thought Paradox was actually going to add the historical shields to the famous families in the start dates in a free manner, not as a DLC.
It's not that I'm not going to buy it, but hell, I feel like I'm getting scammed if such basic things are considered DLC. These small things should already be in the full game which costs 40€ already.
What I consider to be DLC are full on modifications to the very way you play the games, such as a "Muslims & Pagans" DLC or something of that sort, not some cosmetic content that everybody feels it should already be in the game itself. I'd like to ask Paradox to give us real DLCs, not this kind of things.
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Mongolian!
But yeah, I agree, though this has already been beaten to death in the "Dicussing the DLC"-thread.
"Muslims and Pagans" would not be a small cheap DLC, but would be more on the scale of an expansion similar to those for previous Paradox games. After all, the game is currently set up so that only Christian nobles above a certain rank are playable (there may be an exception where an arm of your dynasty converts). Changing this would be a very big change, and thus, at least in my opinion, merit an expansion.
Small cheap DLC should be largely cosmetic and should not massively change game play.
Sorry about that.Mongolian!
Yes, I know, but this small cheap DLC they're telling us to buy is actually something that I feel should be in the full game itself, it seems as if they were putting limits to the work put in the game just to release that small and cheap DLC. Mongolian faces should be in the full game, and dynastic shields should also be there, why make them DLC?
Cosmetic changes, if existant as DLC, should be an upgrade to the game's graphics due to the hiring of better artists or the updates to the engine that allow a better look. Not something that anybody would want to see in the full game already.
Yep Mongols were not important enough to warrant having a face or unit type according to the devs.So this DLC is just an after thought after the game was designed.This is true,really.
This doesn't have anything to do with this thread. Also they're already available on GamersGate and presumably will be on Steam alongside the Pre-Order.
Edit: This was typed in another thread before the merge, but it didn't at the time.
Cosmetic changes like: different faces, different dynastic coats of arms, different hats for the portraits (sound familiar anyone??), possibly different icons for the towns/castles/churches of various cultures and religions, different sprites for units.
All things that *could* have been in the main game, but that don't fundamentally affect the game play. The game would be playable (if a little bland) if all men had one face, all women had another, and all children had the shadow placeholder; and dynastic shields could have been completely ignored - they aren't needed at all. Before anyone says it, I am glad we have the various portraits and shields, I merely use them as examples of things that are not necessary to the game... This is what I meant by cosmetic DLC.
Functionally, anything that merely changes how the game looks, rather than how it functions can reasonably be in the category of cheap DLC. Anything that impacts on the engine or ruleset should be a patch to repair non-functional mechanics/exploits, or an expansion if it introduces new things. The patch should be free, the expansion should not.
