"Discovering" Japan gives prestige but China nothing?

[Dracolithfiend]

I am curious why as Portugal when I "Discovered" Japan I got about 15 prestige but when I "Discovered" China I get nothing at all. Is it just me or is that backwards? Searching for a SEA ROUTE to China was the main reason they sailed eat in the first place. Succeeding in their goal doesn't give you a notice, prestige, bonus to trade, or anything.

 

[makaramus]

you did discover an empire that allready filling 5/1 of asia alone as if it hard thing:here have a 1 prestige for it because you discovered 1 more country
japan was a diffrent history... they were isolated even more than england making them quite unique exploration

 

[gigau]

Marco Polo travelled to China before the game's timeframe. Whereas the first mention of Cipango on a European map was somewhere towards the end of the XVth century, if i recall correctly.

 

[Dracolithfiend]

A huge reason they were sailing that way at all was to discover a sea route to China. Can anyone source that the "Discovery" of Japan was hailed as a more prestigious thing to do then the "Discovery" of dozens of other nations on the way to China?

Also the reason why I am using quotation marks around discovery is because I am well aware that china was really big and they knew it was there. The problem was they had to learn of the route to get there by sea.

 

[holyvigil]

A huge reason they were sailing that way at all was to discover a sea route to China. Can anyone source that the "Discovery" of Japan was hailed as a more prestigious thing to do then the "Discovery" of dozens of other nations on the way to China?

Also the reason why I am using quotation marks around discovery is because I am well aware that china was really big and they knew it was there. The problem was they had to learn of the route to get there by sea.

You're right that it wasn't more prestigious than other discovering other new countries. But they to have some kind of events to make the exploration game interesting.

 

[Dracolithfiend]

So why not some prestige for being the first to reach China......

 

[holyvigil]

So why not some prestige for being the first to reach China......

Because you're not the first European?

 

[Dracolithfiend]

Because you're not the first European?

A huge reason they were sailing that way at all was to discover a sea route to China. Can anyone source that the "Discovery" of Japan was hailed as a more prestigious thing to do then the "Discovery" of dozens of other nations on the way to China?

Also the reason why I am using quotation marks around discovery is because I am well aware that china was really big and they knew it was there. The problem was they had to learn of the route to get there by sea.

Not sure how much more I can emphasize this. Oh well though I can see everyone else here thinks finding the sea route to China to bypass the silk road was merely a foot note to finding Japan. Might as well let the thread die.

 

[Horn and Ivory]

Oh well though I can see everyone else here thinks finding the sea route to China to bypass the silk road was merely a foot note to finding Japan.

It's, what, +15 prestige? It's a flavour event. You found a new empire nobody knew about! It's cool, people think well of you. But you can get comparable prestige from throwing good parties. Sea route to China is neat and all but it isn't short on strategic benefits in its own right; and arguably + prestige doesn't appropriately reflect the kind of way having one would change the opinions of the nations around you.

 

[Amadeu of Savoy]

Fiding Japan and China was only part of the story, monetizing the discovery was the key.

 

[ywxiao]

It was an accidental discovery for the Portuguese, so it's worth mentioning. The pirate king was leading Portuguese smuggling ships in East China Sea, when they were hit by a storm and landed in Japan. This was a worthwhile discovery because the western daimyos were already profiting immensely from the China trade brought in by the pirate king, and they were very open to mutual profit with Portugal.

China is there, has always been, always will be, you can't really miss it, so you don't get a cookie for discovering it.