Diplomacy

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Threatening letters, Insults and Claiming Throne by Ancestry. Are these all just was to lower relations or do they have another function? I mean claiming throne by ancestry just really annoys countries doesn't it .. you can't actually claim a throne?

Remembering I bought the Budget version which doesn't include a rulebook .. well other than a thing with install instructions and keyboard shortcuts!

 

[Carolus Rex]

They just lower relations IIRC.

 

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Originally posted by Carolus Rex
They just lower relations IIRC.

Isn't it unfair that you have to pay for improving your relations and all you need to do to make them worse is to send a letter ?

 

[Carolus Rex]

Originally posted by marvin


Isn't it unfair that you have to pay for improving your relations and all you need to do to make them worse is to send a letter ?

Yup. U should pay for diplomats too.

 

[Orm]

I hate to be one of those, but... there is another game out there where diplomatic actions have a meaning and come at a cost.

Please, don't hit me!

 

[Carolus Rex]

CiV?

 

[Nikolai II]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex


Yup. U should pay for diplomats too.

Especially, you should pay for royal marriages.

I mean, come on.

It's not like thoose festivities were cheap, meaning the ones necessary to celebrate a royal wedding.

August of Sachsen built (or wanted to build, don't remember) an entire castle of porcelain, for just one royal marriage.

It should more likely cost 5 or 10 ducats per province + 10% of treasury, to get a royal marriage.

That would have been another way to stop the 'RM with the world' type of players

 

[Carolus Rex]

Originally posted by Nikolai II


Especially, you should pay for royal marriages.

I mean, come on.

It's not like thoose festivities were cheap, meaning the ones necessary to celebrate a royal wedding.

August of Sachsen built (or wanted to build, don't remember) an entire castle of porcelain, for just one royal marriage.

It should more likely cost 5 or 10 ducats per province + 10% of treasury, to get a royal marriage.

That would have been another way to stop the 'RM with the world' type of players

We have to have this in EU3.

 

[Lord E]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex

We have to have this in EU3

I agree

 

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Why should we need a EU 3 we still have EU 1

 

[Lord E]

Well Yoghurt you are probably right, bur it can be funny sometimes to just think of thing's that cud have been better in the game.

BUT EU IS A GREAT GAME THATS FOR SURE

 

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Still have been unable to lay my hands on a copy of EU2, but if it hasnt been included in EU2 I would like to see in EU3:
* For peace setlements, AI can settle at any amount - but players cannt. Enable it for players too.
* For peace setlements, include more options: both give & get provinces in 1 peace treaty, combination of payment / province, demand royal marriage, demand brake up of alliance, demand become part of alliance
* relations shouldnt drop forever, especially between neighbouring countries, when religions are different. despite different religions, Venice did lots of commerce with the islamic world, and relation was strained at times but often surprisingly good. Trade should make a difference.
* perhaps royal visits to other countries could be a means to improve relation - not sure however if tehse happened

 

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Originally posted by CitizenPaul
Still have been unable to lay my hands on a copy of EU2, but if it hasnt been included in EU2 I would like to see in EU3:
* For peace setlements, AI can settle at any amount - but players cannt. Enable it for players too.
* For peace setlements, include more options: both give & get provinces in 1 peace treaty, combination of payment / province, demand royal marriage, demand brake up of alliance, demand become part of alliance
* relations shouldnt drop forever, especially between neighbouring countries, when religions are different. despite different religions, Venice did lots of commerce with the islamic world, and relation was strained at times but often surprisingly good. Trade should make a difference.
* perhaps royal visits to other countries could be a means to improve relation - not sure however if tehse happened

I sign to that to. And I also would think if it where awesome if you could create vassals (out of own provinces)or force a conquered enemy to be a vassal instead of annexing them. This way you can continue to haraz them

 

[Owl]

Originally posted by Yoghurt


I sign to that to. And I also would think if it where awesome if you could create vassals (out of own provinces)or force a conquered enemy to be a vassal instead of annexing them. This way you can continue to haraz them

Well, those things ARE possible in EU2 ! The diplo options are still a bit limited, but better than EU1...

 

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I found a new use for the insult letters.

When you want to arrange a royal marriage with a kingdom and have a +0 relationship with this kingdom, you can send a letter of insult which will lower the relationship to around -30. Then, you can easily arrange your royal marriage without being refused.

Pretty stupid... but it works alright.

 

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wow!
that's creative indeed!

 

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Originally posted by CitizenPaul
wow!
that's creative indeed!

Thanks.

First time I've ever found something by myself since I am on these boards.